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The report I read says he was located at St. Mary’s Hospital in Grand Junction, Colorado. It could be he was taken there after his arrest but it sounded like he was already at the hospital when he was arrested.

Grand Junction is on IH 70, a major east-west highway. Perhaps he was in an accident, or rehab, or staying with someone in the area, or ?

DRJ (2afbca) — 9/6/2007 @ 9:03 pm

Was he unconscious?

Do they have phones at the hospital?

There are more details to come. But he’s done this before, so I wouldn’t be too quick to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Patterico (2a8eaa) — 9/6/2007 @ 9:07 pm

I’m not giving him the benefit of the doubt. I figure he was injured somewhere, somehow and the hospital staff reported him when he came in for treatment.

DRJ (2afbca) — 9/6/2007 @ 9:11 pm

It’s also possible he was injured trying to escape or during an arrest. I’m not discounting that, either.

DRJ (2afbca) — 9/6/2007 @ 9:14 pm

Apparently it’s difficult to deny bail in California. Do you think he’ll get bail again?

Christoph (92b8f7) — 9/6/2007 @ 9:27 pm

The only reason to stop in GJ is because you’re too tired to push on to Denver. I’m going to assume he was on the way there.

TLB (0c89cb) — 9/6/2007 @ 9:45 pm

The funny thing is he blew two million bucks on bail.

Christoph (92b8f7) — 9/6/2007 @ 9:50 pm

… maybe they lucked onto him after an accident of some kind.

Maybe he was trapped in the wreck and they had to get him out with a Hsu horn.

Glen Wishard (b1987d) — 9/6/2007 @ 10:07 pm

I’m surprised he’s alive. I kinda expected him to be sleeping with the fishes by now.

Kevin Murphy (0b2493) — 9/6/2007 @ 10:42 pm

Maybe he was injured from the butt whoopin he caught, asking for a refund on his bail from Hillary.

papertiger (1afea2) — 9/6/2007 @ 10:49 pm

lol Hsu horn

Maybe his car went off road and he landed in a Hsu tree.

papertiger (1afea2) — 9/6/2007 @ 10:51 pm

I think we ought to release him, and just take his word for it that he will send along his passport when he gets a chance. Go ahead and book him on the next Denver – Hong Kong flight while we are at it.

JVW (6a3590) — 9/6/2007 @ 10:55 pm

I just hope he talks before “she” can Foster him as well.

TC (1cf350) — 9/6/2007 @ 11:57 pm

You know this is the perfect test of media/DMC collusion. The timing of the event makes it a coin toss whether this story, seeping with democrat perfidy, will be the headline on tomorrows paper.
If it isn’t there, the reader is left with only one reason for “why not”?

papertiger (ab2f41) — 9/7/2007 @ 12:14 am

When will the other shoe drop?

Perfect Sense (6e894f) — 9/7/2007 @ 12:19 am

Reports are he was taken off a train on a backboard by paramedics.

gahrie (56a0a8) — 9/7/2007 @ 3:25 am

From Wapo:
“But his association with Clinton cast an unwanted national spotlight on Hsu, leading to the discovery last week that there was an outstanding warrant for his arrest stemming from a 15-year-old felony theft conviction.”

From AP:
“Hsu had been scheduled to appear in court Wednesday to turn over his passport and ask a judge to cut in half the $2 million bail he posted last week when he turned himself in after spending 15 years on the lam from a felony theft conviction.”

Am I being picky or is there no difference between felony GRAND THEFT and “felony theft”?

And didn’t the plea of no-contest include fraud?

Can some one tell me why these esteemed news outlets are omitting these words?

Rovin (7f64b8) — 9/7/2007 @ 6:20 am

Anybody see this story on the front page anywhere?

It certainly was not on the front page here in Indy, given the stomping the Colts put on the Saints last night.

JD (f6a000) — 9/7/2007 @ 6:53 am

Captain Ed has more details.

Hsu was taken off a passenger train at the Grand Junction train station earlier in the day by paramedics who requested a backboard to move him, said Sgt. Lonnie Chavez with the Grand Junction Police Department.

Authorities received a request for medical assistance at the train station at about 11:15 a.m., but the exact nature of Hsu’s condition was unclear, Chavez said. Staff at St. Mary’s Hospital declined to comment.

It appears that he was recognized sometime at the hospital, and the authorities were notified.

LarryD (feb78b) — 9/7/2007 @ 7:23 am

It will be very interesting to see how this plays out over the next couple weeks.

When Hsu failed to show, questions began to be asked about the propriety of the Cal. AG’s office agreeing to a $2 million bail, when it was clear the guy could make that number, and he had been a fugitive for so long.

The prosecutorial posture of this case is a little unusual because about 99% of state law violations in California are handled by the various County DAs, not by the State AG. Maybe Patterico can enlighten us a little on how it is that the AG reaches out and takes a case, but in my experiences as a spectator in California, most cases handled by the AG’s office get there because the DA has a conflict of interest. I’m not sure if that was the case back in 1992 with Hsu, or if there was another reason for the AG’s office to have prosecuted his case.

But, on the subject of the bail, I paused for a moment after he fled to consider the fact that the AG of California is none other than the well known long time Demo office holder and former Presidential candidate Jerry Brown.

I’m just saying ….

wls (fb8809) — 9/7/2007 @ 7:52 am

wls…
I would love to elucidate on your observation; but, as a gun-dealer licensed by the CA-DoJ, I don’t think it would be prudent to comment on the politics/policies of the Attorney General.
You Go, Jerry!

Another Drew (8018ee) — 9/7/2007 @ 8:02 am

“It appears that he was recognized sometime at the hospital, and the authorities were notified.”

Is this a HIPPA violation?

quasimodo (edc74e) — 9/7/2007 @ 8:16 am

Just a third-rate burglary money-launderer.

Kevin Murphy (0b2493) — 9/7/2007 @ 8:19 am

and again, STRIKE only works in the preview.

Kevin Murphy (0b2493) — 9/7/2007 @ 8:20 am

I really hate when that happens Kevin.

When are bloggers going to standardize html features? Hint hint

No mention of Hsu capture in the SacBee.
Of course they haven’t acknowledged his existence. If it were not for their AP newswire feature the name Norman Hsu wouldn’t have appeared in the SacBee at all ever.

papertiger (1afea2) — 9/7/2007 @ 8:47 am

Some commenters at HotAir are speculating that Hsu was poisoned with Polonium. I disagree. If there was an attempt to kill him, it would involve a Chinese Method.

nk (a6ecc6) — 9/7/2007 @ 8:59 am

I think he was poisoned by fecal contamination, because his personal valet doesn’t know the difference between shit and Hsu polish.

Glen Wishard (b1987d) — 9/7/2007 @ 11:07 am

Quasimodo #22,

Interesting question. HIPPA permits a health care provider to disclose information to a law enforcement official:

“… to identify or apprehend an individual who appears to have escaped from lawful custody …”

HIPPA also permits the health care provider to respond to law enforcement requests for information:

“… for purposes of identifying or locating a suspect, fugitive, material witness or missing person …”

We don’t know if the suspicions about Hsu arose with the EMS, the police, the hospital, or possibly even with AmTrak or a passenger, but the HIPPA exceptions vary depending on whether the hospital volunteered the information or law enforcement asked.

This may explain why it took 7 hours to arrest Hsu since presumably it took some of that time to ascertain and work through the HIPPA requirements.

DRJ (2afbca) — 9/7/2007 @ 11:31 am

It’s also been reported that Hsu had identification on him when he was taken in… If he was delirious, they would check his pockets for ID, so they could perhaps check for old records or something (I guess). It just takes one person involved who reads a non-“progressive” political blog to know his face, and his name.

Scott Jacobs (425810) — 9/7/2007 @ 11:59 am

DRJ, I saw that he was arrested by FBI from the Denver office. It takes 5 hours to drive to Grand Junction from Denver. If they took a plane, it would cut down the time but not a lot.

Robin Roberts (1da0d5) — 9/7/2007 @ 4:14 pm

He landed by plane in CA.
He’s supposed to go to court there.
Next thing you know he’s picked up by ambulance in Grand Junction, CO.
Hypothesis: He’s associated with the Clintons.
Someone picks him up at airport and escorts him to the train station. He falls ill several hours later. He’s a dead man walking. You’ll see his name soon on the Clinton death list.
WHY ISN’T ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS????????????????

Ronan Brown (bbe852) — 9/7/2007 @ 8:14 pm

This time NO BAIL and NO PLEA BARGENING and NO PAROLE

krazy kagu (b1eb84) — 9/8/2007 @ 11:39 am

This report suggests something else happened:

“Fugitive political fundraiser Norman Hsu was behaving erratically as he fled the Bay Area on Amtrak’s California Zephyr, at one point stripping off his shirt and shoes, before paramedics were called to take him off the train in western Colorado, passengers said Friday.”

DRJ (2afbca) — 9/8/2007 @ 11:56 am

I am a resident of Grand Junction and the story is Hsu was admitted to the hospital due to being under the influence of PCP. Anyway that is what I heard!

AMR (be32b9) — 9/8/2007 @ 10:16 pm

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Norman Hsu Captured

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