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8/28/2007

Tuesday News Update

Filed under: Current Events,Miscellaneous — DRJ @ 10:09 am



[Guest post by DRJ]

Too much news, too little time:

Idaho Senator Larry Craig disappoints his family and his constituents.

Ex-astronaut Lisa Nowak has asserted an insanity defense based on “major depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder, insomnia and brief psychotic disorder with marked stressors” that she claims affected her at the time of the offense but does not affect her competency to stand trial.

Using DNA evidence, a North Carolina man is exonerated after serving 18 years in prison for rape of a child.

Immigration raids on employers continue, this time in an Ohio chicken processing plant.

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In other not-so-new(s), Glenn Greenwald thinks conservatives are hypocrites …

The concluding paragraphs from Glenn Greenwald’s 8/28/2007 Salon column:

“What accounts for this complete shift in right-wing commentary about the Craig story? How can it possibly be that Craig’s bathroom adultery compels his resignation today, but — weeks before the last election — the same conduct was so irrelevant that the mere mention of it rendered Rogers the lowest “scumbag” in the nation? Other than the fact that the Craig report threatened GOP political interests in October but does not do so now, what conceivable difference exists that accounts for such a fundamentally different reaction among the Right?

But there is actually a more pernicious element visible here. Back in October, scads of right-wing pundits pretended that Craig’s bathroom behavior was irrelevant to them not because they actually believed that (as their commentary now demonstrates), but only because they were petrified that the revelation of his behavior in October would harm Republican electoral prospects. It is just conclusively clear that so many of them insisted to their readers something they obviously did not believe — that nothing could be less relevant than whether Larry Craig commits adultery with anonymous men in bathrooms and the only grotesque immorality is from those who report such matters.

Today, with the election safely over, that exact same behavior makes Craig a scumbag who should resign. Who would ever listen to anyone who engages in such patently duplicitous advocacy?”

11 Responses to “Tuesday News Update”

  1. Who would ever listen to anyone who engages in such patently duplicitous advocacy?”

    How do the Gleeeens type this stuff without their computer bursting into flames?!

    JD (e2fc98)

  2. District Attorney Branny Vickory had asked the judge to dismiss the original charges against Dail based on the new test results. The tests showed that DNA found on the 12-year-old victim’s nightgown matched another man already in prison. The results also excluded Dail as the rapist.

    Has anyone been following the details in using DNA to clear people of old charges? There was a case in Wisconsin a number of months ago where a person was released because “new DNA evidence showed he was innocent” of a violent crime, I believe involving murder many years ago. Not long after his release he was linked to another brutal rape-multiple murder, this time the DNA evidence linked him to it.

    In the North Carolina case it is reassuring that the repeat DNA testing (presumably using technology not available at the time) not only indicated the convicted person was innocent, but was evidence against another specific person who apparently fit the crime.

    I wonder how many “He/she is innocent from the DNA” are because the test does not show a match with the accused, even if the reason may be because of a deteriorated sample, etc. What safeguards are in place, I wonder?

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  3. Uh oh, every time this blog takes Greenwald to the woodshed we run the risk of an invasion of his acolytes. Better tidy up the living room. . .

    JVW (6a3590)

  4. Was any evidence offered last Fall before the rumors Mike Rogers was floating were denied?

    daleyrocks (906622)

  5. scene in one of the early joseph wambaugh novels: the vice cop was sitting on the john smoking a cigarette when the perv entered the adjacent stall. the perv stuffed his unit through a glory hole in the partition, and the vice cop grabbed it and stubbed his cigarette out on it. if i were scripting the craig denouement i would have done it like that.

    assistant devil's advocate (272218)

  6. This may be a stupid question, but what crime was committed by Sen. Craig? He played footsie and touched the stall partition, and was basically arrested for annoying the detective.

    The entire allegation is based on interpretation of relatively innocuous stuff, which the detective was predisposed to interpret as lewd. The detective should have waited until there was a more concrete request or proposal, say an invitation to share the stall.

    I am not defending the guy; he may well have been trolling the bathroom for a quickie. But he should have fought this allegation; he would have gotten off. It may well have not made it past an initial (probable cause?) hearing.

    As the to the rolling bag thing … this really gets me. Where else in a typical (non-handicapped) stall can a rolling bag be placed? I carry a rolling computer bag, and spread ’em wide and tap my feet when doing my business. I guess I should be worried in a public restroom.

    tomjedrz (562284)

  7. “In other not-so-new(s), Glenn Greenwald thinks conservatives are hypocrites …”…….Pot….kettle…..black……inane ass-hat…..oh..sorry,got a mite bit carried away there…..

    Edward Lunny (85f233)

  8. A funny comment to a comment at Gay Patriot…

    #9
    “if Ted Kennedy drove home drunk, wrecked a car, and left a body at the scene of the crime in 2007…. he’d not only be out of the Senate, but most likely in jail.”

    Nope. He’s a Democrat. Democrats don’t have to leave when they’re found with a live boy (Studds, Frank) or a dead girl. Every time they vote for partial birth abortion or gay marriage, it’s a get-out-of -jail-free card.

    Hillary Clinton could shoot her husband through the head on national TV, do the church lady dance over his body while screaming “Satan, I love you!” and she’d be re-elected with 65% of the vote.

    Comment by Jensen — August 29, 2007 @ 12:36 pm – August 29, 2007
    Gay Patriot

    driver (faae10)

  9. Hmm a ASTRONUT and IF ITS TUESDAY THIS MUST BE BELGIUM

    krazy kagu (044dd0)

  10. Senator Larry (I am not a Gay) Craig

    Where does one begin in writing about this story? The more I consider it, the more angles I see. No matter how I slice it, however, I don’t see a good ending for the Republican senator from Idaho. In fact, his press conference today just made his situation a lot worse.

    The background is pretty much known at this point. On June 11, Craig was arrested at Minneapolis Airport, charged with having solicited sex from an undercover cop in an airport bathroom stall. I won’t bother with the sordid details as outlined in the police report. They don’t represent my main issue. We now know that Craig returned to Minneapolis early this month and quietly pleaded to a misdemeanor count of disturbing the peace. Then, just in the past few days, the story broke. Today, Craig appeared before the media in Boise and insisted he was not gay and had done nothing wrong. He characterized his plea as a mistake because he didn’t get legal advice and was now going to hire an attorney to explore his legal options. He also lashed out at the local paper, the Idaho Statesman, for persecuting him.

    First point: He has no legal options. The Idaho lawmaker-I repeat, LAWMAKER, has already entered a plea to reduced charges and paid a fine. The legal issue is over.

    As to today’s statements,…….. c,mon. Is he going to tell us that the police report is false? Then why did he plead guilty instead of contesting the charges in the most vigorous manner? That he was a victim of entrapment? How could the cop entrap him when he (the cop) was first seated in the men’s room stall when Craig arrived, peered into the cop’s stall then entered the next stall where he began the actions that led to his arrest? I guess his position will be that his actions in the bathroom were misinterpreted, thus, leading to his arrest. Hey folks, use your common sense and your own life experiences. We have all been there, right? When we are in a public bathroom stall, how many times have we slid our foot into the next stall and touched the foot of the occupant “next door”? How many times have we slid our hand under the stall divider into the space of another? We all know that some gays, do indeed engage in this behavior in public bathrooms. But who else does it?

    Which leads me to my next point: Rumors about Craig’s sexual preferences have been floating around for decades, and he has always denied them. It seems that now others are coming forward (anonymously at this point) to describe similar experiences with the senator. But really! Aren’t we living in the year 2007? If this man is gay, would it not be better to come out and state it? Would it have killed his political career? I will readily concede that heterosexuals like myself probably can’t appreciate what it is like to be gay and to keep it a secret, especially when one is married and has children. I admit that. But it just seems to me that society has come so far in accepting homosexuals for what they are. I personally don’t know this man’s sexual preference nor do I care. I don’t think it should disqualify him from politics. However, soliciting sex acts in a public bathroom is still against the law, and if that is what he did, then he has no excuses.

    Now for the political fallout. Of course, the Democrats are estatic. They don’t need to say anything, just let the Republicans deal with the mess. Liberal pundits and bloggers are having a field day because so many Republicans have made an issue out of “family values”, Craig included. In fact, Craig’s voting record in Congress has put him at odds with issues favored by gay activists. For instance, he has opposed gay marriage. Many will say that this makes him Hypocrite Number One. Well, if you think about it, actually not. Why does every homosexual have to be in favor of gay marriage? I know of one conservative radio talk show host, who is openly gay, and who is opposed to gay marriage. Why cannot a gay person feel that marriage is an institution reserved for a man and a woman? I’ll bet many do.

    However, if Mr Craig has been going around preaching “family values”, then he is certainly vulnerable to the hypocrite charge. I don’t think I need to elaborate on that point.

    Is there a double standard in all this? Of course. Let us not forget that Barney Frank (D-MA) is still in Congress, years after it was revealed that his boyfriend at the time was using Frank’s apartment as a gay bordello while Barney was at work on Capital Hill. It never hurt his career much. What about Gerry Studds, another Massachusetts Democrat, who was actually having sex with a 17 year old male page? Did he resign? No. He defiantly told everyone that it was a consensual affair, and if folks didn’t like it, they could…., well, you know. His Democratic colleagues loudly supported him, and he went on to be re-elected several times by the good denizons of Massachusetts. (Studds’ story was brought back to light during the Mark Foley scandal involving Capital pages.) But let us set sex aside. Why is William (“Cool Cash”) Jefferson, (D-LA) still in Congress? He is currently under indictment for accepting a $100,000 bribe from undercover FBI agents-$90,000 of which was later recovered in his home freezer. Name me one Democrat in Congress who has called for him to step down.

    So, in light of all that, should Senator Craig resign? In my view, yes. Double standard or not, the facts of this case show that he has no business being in the US Senate-not because he is gay-but because he engaged in behavior that was illegal and completely inappropriate for a member of Congress or any political figure. I say that he did it because he has pleaded guilty. Unfortunately, it appears at this point, that Craig will continue to dig himself further and further, making himself a laughing stock and dragging his party down with him.

    As an independent voter, I would say to the Republicans that they should clean their own house and let the public see how the Democrats refuse to clean theirs. The Foleys, the Vitters and the Craigs need to go. As to Senator Craig, I hope that he will just come clean, resign and get on with the business of putting his life and family back together in private.

    gary fouse
    fousesquawk

    fouse, gary c (3cdb33)

  11. This has nothing to do with being gay. Its deviant sexual behavior. During my career, half the guys we arrested for lewd conduct in toilets asked us, “Will my wife find out about this?”

    Retired vice cop (dde475)


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