Comments on: The Legacy of the Gang of 14 and the Judicial Filibuster http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/ Harangues that just make sense Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:45:59 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: MD in Philly http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/comment-page-1/#comment-277019 MD in Philly Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:09:58 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/#comment-277019 I say we not only go back to the old way of filibustering, but incorporate it into a new true "reality" show, "Our Senate". On prime time major network each week, highlights of speeches in the US Senate are played and voted on by the public for most outragous, most feckless, most intellectually dishonest, and most likely to fail re-election. Entries qualify by most votes on the show's website that refers to YouTube clips people post. I say we not only go back to the old way of filibustering, but incorporate it into a new true “reality” show, “Our Senate”. On prime time major network each week, highlights of speeches in the US Senate are played and voted on by the public for most outragous, most feckless, most intellectually dishonest, and most likely to fail re-election. Entries qualify by most votes on the show’s website that refers to YouTube clips people post.

]]> By: steve miller http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/comment-page-1/#comment-276818 steve miller Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:05:14 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/#comment-276818 AFAIK, the Legislature can set the rules for how it governs itself, and does so as one of the first acts each term. AFAIK, the Legislature can set the rules for how it governs itself, and does so as one of the first acts each term.

]]> By: Patricia http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/comment-page-1/#comment-276675 Patricia Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:23:56 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/#comment-276675 ras, Maybe our trolls can just shout "NO. 7!" for instance at the appropriate juncture in the thread instead of blathering on and on. Would save lots of time and effort for them, and us. They do inspire a lot of funny banter, though. Now I'm off to watch the last episode of the Sopranos. Can't wait to see how it ends! And I have a Toyota. ras,
Maybe our trolls can just shout “NO. 7!” for instance at the appropriate juncture in the thread instead of blathering on and on. Would save lots of time and effort for them, and us.

They do inspire a lot of funny banter, though.

Now I’m off to watch the last episode of the Sopranos. Can’t wait to see how it ends! And I have a Toyota.

]]> By: JD http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/comment-page-1/#comment-276670 JD Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:47:34 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/#comment-276670 buzz - The new season is excellent so far. It is certainly better than last season. Leary's character is deconstructing, badly. buzz – The new season is excellent so far. It is certainly better than last season. Leary’s character is deconstructing, badly.

]]> By: buzz http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/comment-page-1/#comment-276665 buzz Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:27:52 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/#comment-276665 I dropped "rescue me" after the first couple of seasons. Is it worth picking up again? I dropped “rescue me” after the first couple of seasons. Is it worth picking up again?

]]> By: buzz http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/comment-page-1/#comment-276664 buzz Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:25:28 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/#comment-276664 To change the rules about the fake filibuster takes 66 senators. To filibuster the old fashioned way takes one senator. If the filibustering senator(s) give up the floor, it takes 60 votes to kill it. If anyone was curious about my point, please reread the post from 6:14 and refrain from commenting until you understand it. To change the rules about the fake filibuster takes 66 senators. To filibuster the old fashioned way takes one senator. If the filibustering senator(s) give up the floor, it takes 60 votes to kill it. If anyone was curious about my point, please reread the post from 6:14 and refrain from commenting until you understand it.

]]> By: Perfect Sense http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/comment-page-1/#comment-276663 Perfect Sense Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:25:06 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/#comment-276663 #4 Thanks for clarification. In the heat of the moment, I forgot about the committees. #4 Thanks for clarification. In the heat of the moment, I forgot about the committees.

]]> By: JD http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/comment-page-1/#comment-276662 JD Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:24:45 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/#comment-276662 buzz - I completely forgot that my favorite drama on television is on tonight. Rescue Me. Leary is brilliant. buzz – I completely forgot that my favorite drama on television is on tonight. Rescue Me. Leary is brilliant.

]]> By: alphie http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/comment-page-1/#comment-276660 alphie Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:19:02 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/#comment-276660 Not sure what your point is buzz. It takes 60 senators to end a filibuster. It takes 66 senators to change the <i>rules</i> about filibustering. Frist's "nuclear option" was a pipe dream. Not sure what your point is buzz.

It takes 60 senators to end a filibuster.

It takes 66 senators to change the rules about filibustering.

Frist’s “nuclear option” was a pipe dream.

]]> By: buzz http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/comment-page-1/#comment-276659 buzz Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:14:08 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/08/08/the-legacy-of-the-gang-of-14-and-the-judicial-filibuster/#comment-276659 God, I hate breaking the rules and I know I will be sorry, but: "The term first came into use in the United States Senate, where Senate rules permit a senator, or a series of senators, to speak for as long as they wish and on any topic they choose, unless a supermajority group of 60% of senators brings debate to a close by invoking cloture. In current practice, Senate Rule 22 permits procedural filibusters, in which actual continuous floor speeches are not required, although the Senate Majority Leader may require an actual traditional filibuster if he or she so chooses. This threat of a filibuster can therefore be as powerful as an actual filibuster. Previously the filibustering senator(s) could delay voting only by making an endless speech. Currently they need only indicate that they are filibustering, thereby preventing the senate from moving on to other business until the motion is withdrawn or enough votes are gathered for cloture." God, I hate breaking the rules and I know I will be sorry, but:

“The term first came into use in the United States Senate, where Senate rules permit a senator, or a series of senators, to speak for as long as they wish and on any topic they choose, unless a supermajority group of 60% of senators brings debate to a close by invoking cloture.

In current practice, Senate Rule 22 permits procedural filibusters, in which actual continuous floor speeches are not required, although the Senate Majority Leader may require an actual traditional filibuster if he or she so chooses. This threat of a filibuster can therefore be as powerful as an actual filibuster. Previously the filibustering senator(s) could delay voting only by making an endless speech. Currently they need only indicate that they are filibustering, thereby preventing the senate from moving on to other business until the motion is withdrawn or enough votes are gathered for cloture.”

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