Comments on: Democrat House Majority Whip: A Positive Iraq Report Would Be “A Real Big Problem for Us” http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/ Harangues that just make sense Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:14:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Pablo http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275550 Pablo Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:16:20 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275550 <blockquote>Rather than look for gotchas, you would do better to try to some up with a sensible, plausible explanation (that rules out Jim Rockford) for what we intend to do in Iraq and how the current tactics will accomplish it.</blockquote> And whatever you do, don't accept such an explanation from the guys who are actually running the show. BECAUSE THEY LIE!!! Anyone else rememeber when replacing Rumsfeld with Gates was a wonderful thing because of Gates' frank, realistic assessment of the situation in Iraq? Anyone else remember the unanimous confirmation of Petreaus?

Rather than look for gotchas, you would do better to try to some up with a sensible, plausible explanation (that rules out Jim Rockford) for what we intend to do in Iraq and how the current tactics will accomplish it.

And whatever you do, don’t accept such an explanation from the guys who are actually running the show. BECAUSE THEY LIE!!!

Anyone else rememeber when replacing Rumsfeld with Gates was a wonderful thing because of Gates’ frank, realistic assessment of the situation in Iraq? Anyone else remember the unanimous confirmation of Petreaus?

]]> By: JD http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275546 JD Sat, 04 Aug 2007 12:16:23 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275546 Patterico - In the Left's bastardization of language, quoting somebody verbatim is an attack or a smear. Patterico - In the Left’s bastardization of language, quoting somebody verbatim is an attack or a smear.

]]> By: Christoph http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275545 Christoph Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:03:05 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275545 Liberal Avenger, you don't have a leg to stand on. Your party's House whip said it, now your party can own it. Liberal Avenger, you don’t have a leg to stand on.

Your party’s House whip said it, now your party can own it.

]]> By: Patterico http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275544 Patterico Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:01:26 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275544 <i>Cheap shot, Patterico. I can’t say I blame you, though, given the state of affairs your own party is in.</i> Accurate quotations are a "cheap shot"? Cheap shot, Patterico.

I can’t say I blame you, though, given the state of affairs your own party is in.

Accurate quotations are a “cheap shot”?

]]> By: JD http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275468 JD Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:05:21 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275468 AJL - So you are proclaiming Gen. Petraeus a liar prior to his report even being issued? Have fun at YKos. Shout down a soldier or two. Big fun ! AJL - So you are proclaiming Gen. Petraeus a liar prior to his report even being issued?

Have fun at YKos. Shout down a soldier or two. Big fun !

]]> By: Andrew J. Lazarus http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275466 Andrew J. Lazarus Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:58:27 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275466 The problem with a highly positive report is that it would follow in the long tradition of overly-rosy lies that the Administration has proffered from Day One. I suppose it would have been bad for the Democrats if the insurgency really were in its last throes when Darth Cheney said so. But it wasn't. The Administration's descriptions of Iraq have the accuracy of tabloid horoscopes, if that. In those neighborhoods where our new forces are able to keep order, things are slightly better. In the parts of the country where we are now allied with Sunni tribes (basically, Saddam's cousins without Saddam's appreciation of secular vices), violence is directed at Al Qaeda in Iraq, but it's not easy to see what strategic goal is being advanced. Rather than look for gotchas, you would do better to try to some up with a sensible, plausible explanation (that rules out Jim Rockford) for <I>what</I> we intend to do in Iraq and <I>how</I> the current tactics will accomplish it. Certainly with the Sunni bloc leaving the on-vacation Parliament there is little evidence our policy is effecting some political progress. I'm at the YearlyKos convention, so I don't have too much more time to comment before my turn at the kitten-stomping room comes up. The problem with a highly positive report is that it would follow in the long tradition of overly-rosy lies that the Administration has proffered from Day One. I suppose it would have been bad for the Democrats if the insurgency really were in its last throes when Darth Cheney said so. But it wasn’t. The Administration’s descriptions of Iraq have the accuracy of tabloid horoscopes, if that.

In those neighborhoods where our new forces are able to keep order, things are slightly better. In the parts of the country where we are now allied with Sunni tribes (basically, Saddam’s cousins without Saddam’s appreciation of secular vices), violence is directed at Al Qaeda in Iraq, but it’s not easy to see what strategic goal is being advanced.

Rather than look for gotchas, you would do better to try to some up with a sensible, plausible explanation (that rules out Jim Rockford) for what we intend to do in Iraq and how the current tactics will accomplish it. Certainly with the Sunni bloc leaving the on-vacation Parliament there is little evidence our policy is effecting some political progress.

I’m at the YearlyKos convention, so I don’t have too much more time to comment before my turn at the kitten-stomping room comes up.

]]> By: The Liberal Avenger http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275328 The Liberal Avenger Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:00:51 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275328 Cheap shot, Patterico. I can't say I blame you, though, given the state of affairs your own party is in. Cheap shot, Patterico.

I can’t say I blame you, though, given the state of affairs your own party is in.

]]> By: Four Pointer http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275299 Four Pointer Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:55:39 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-275299 <strong>Clyburn: Good news on the war would be......</strong> ..."a real big problem for us." Meaning, of course, his cut-and-run cronies in the Dhimmicratic party. If you don't believe me, look it up. (via Patterico): House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said Monday that a strongly positive report o... Clyburn: Good news on the war would be……

…”a real big problem for us.” Meaning, of course, his cut-and-run cronies in the Dhimmicratic party. If you don’t believe me, look it up. (via Patterico):

House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said Monday that a strongly positive report o…

]]> By: otcconan http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-274991 otcconan Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:29:15 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-274991 Whether or not it was wise to say what he said, at least he was honest. Good news on the war = bad news for the Dems. Moreover, it equals good news for Hillary, since she's been the most vocal of the current D candidates as far as (tepid) support of the war. Bad news for Ron Paul on the other side. Good news for Rudy, and very good news for Fred. And dammit, good news on the war is good news for America. Whether or not it was wise to say what he said, at least he was honest. Good news on the war = bad news for the Dems.

Moreover, it equals good news for Hillary, since she’s been the most vocal of the current D candidates as far as (tepid) support of the war. Bad news for Ron Paul on the other side. Good news for Rudy, and very good news for Fred.

And dammit, good news on the war is good news for America.

]]> By: Horatio http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-274965 Horatio Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:04:28 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/07/31/democrat-house-majority-whip-a-positive-iraq-report-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us/#comment-274965 <blockquote>I actually hope that they grow the stones to vote to de-fund the war, at least they would be being honest as to their intentions.</blockquote> Oh JD, don't you have anything better to do than mentally masturbate? Political realities preclude this from being enacted, unless, Petraeus testifies that all is lost, and, by all accounts to date, that's not going to happen.

I actually hope that they grow the stones to vote to de-fund the war, at least they would be being honest as to their intentions.

Oh JD, don’t you have anything better to do than mentally masturbate? Political realities preclude this from being enacted, unless, Petraeus testifies that all is lost, and, by all accounts to date, that’s not going to happen.

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