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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Deport the Criminals First&#8221; &#8212; Part Six of an Ongoing Series: The DUI Murder of Police Chief Ernie Mendoza</title>
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		<title>By: Tony Romo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Romo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for thea article, love Tony Romo.. he has taken the NFL and POP Culture by storm!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for thea article, love Tony Romo.. he has taken the NFL and POP Culture by storm!</p>
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		<title>By: Loretta Romo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loretta Romo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all that judge it&#039;s book by its cover,
For all of yall that believe this, ya&#039;ll believe anything and everything. Let me just clarified this statement about Guillermo he did not killed Mr.Mendoza despite of his priors. And if you want the true story about this incident trying asking me. I wasn&#039;t thier,But Wharton DPS,WPD and the legal system is a joke to all that don&#039;t know how corrupted Wharton County is, Thats even if its lieng to the taxpayers citizen&#039;s to protected them one of them. What happen back in 2001 when a young child by the name of Angela Nino was killed by a drunk driver (Polak)and had serveral charges drop, just because he was white and was only given TWO YEARS DEF ADJUDICATION.and had priors too. Let me see you eat theses apples. Do your homework first before going to judge someone by it&#039;s race.   
And he did not go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all that judge it&#8217;s book by its cover,<br />
For all of yall that believe this, ya&#8217;ll believe anything and everything. Let me just clarified this statement about Guillermo he did not killed Mr.Mendoza despite of his priors. And if you want the true story about this incident trying asking me. I wasn&#8217;t thier,But Wharton DPS,WPD and the legal system is a joke to all that don&#8217;t know how corrupted Wharton County is, Thats even if its lieng to the taxpayers citizen&#8217;s to protected them one of them. What happen back in 2001 when a young child by the name of Angela Nino was killed by a drunk driver (Polak)and had serveral charges drop, just because he was white and was only given TWO YEARS DEF ADJUDICATION.and had priors too. Let me see you eat theses apples. Do your homework first before going to judge someone by it&#8217;s race.<br />
And he did not go</p>
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		<title>By: The Voices of Citizens to the Senate at Traction Control</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Voices of Citizens to the Senate at Traction Control</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 05:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 05:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, Mayor Reconquista is in Washington asking for another $1 billion for gang &lt;i&gt;prevention&lt;/i&gt;-- or anything but law enforcement--money.  On the heels of the Hector Marroquin scandal, this is doubly ridiculous!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-gangs6jun06,1,7285197.story?coll=la-news-politics-national/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Anti-Gang bill&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, Mayor Reconquista is in Washington asking for another $1 billion for gang <i>prevention</i>&#8211; or anything but law enforcement&#8211;money.  On the heels of the Hector Marroquin scandal, this is doubly ridiculous!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-gangs6jun06,1,7285197.story?coll=la-news-politics-national/" rel="nofollow">Anti-Gang bill</a></p>
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		<title>By: Another Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 04:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care how your parse it, these illegals are in this country in violation of our laws.  Whether their further crimes are infractions, misdemeanors, or felonies, does not excuse the lack of interest, and or incompetence, on the part of the Federal Government in dealing with this problem.  

Deport the criminals now, build the fence, and then we&#039;ll deal with the rest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care how your parse it, these illegals are in this country in violation of our laws.  Whether their further crimes are infractions, misdemeanors, or felonies, does not excuse the lack of interest, and or incompetence, on the part of the Federal Government in dealing with this problem.  </p>
<p>Deport the criminals now, build the fence, and then we&#8217;ll deal with the rest!</p>
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		<title>By: Patterico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patterico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TomHynes,

That may be.  There are plenty of anecdotes to the contrary.  But based on what you have said, these anecdotes are probably like the anecdotes about how it&#039;s better not to wear seatbelts -- they exist, but they fly in the face of the statistics.  You just hear about them because when it happens, it&#039;s something people want to talk about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TomHynes,</p>
<p>That may be.  There are plenty of anecdotes to the contrary.  But based on what you have said, these anecdotes are probably like the anecdotes about how it&#8217;s better not to wear seatbelts &#8212; they exist, but they fly in the face of the statistics.  You just hear about them because when it happens, it&#8217;s something people want to talk about.</p>
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		<title>By: Patterico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patterico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The difference, CL, is that the “illegal makes good” stories are not simply a policy statement about immigration; they are human interest stories, demonstrating the potential of human beings.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Steve Lopez talked about using these stories as a policy statement about illegal immigration.  I am responding in kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The difference, CL, is that the “illegal makes good” stories are not simply a policy statement about immigration; they are human interest stories, demonstrating the potential of human beings.</p></blockquote>
<p>Steve Lopez talked about using these stories as a policy statement about illegal immigration.  I am responding in kind.</p>
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		<title>By: TomHynes</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomHynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott Jacobs:

 Being drunk actually increases the injuries, according to this research:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.medicineatmichigan.org/magazine/1999/fall/emergency/research.asp&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alcohol and Injuries&lt;/a&gt;

Also difficult, says Zink, is erasing the notion that being drunk can actually protect people from injury because they’re “more relaxed.” “We’ve observed that alcohol worsens injury and increases mortality, after motor vehicle crashes in particular,”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Jacobs:</p>
<p> Being drunk actually increases the injuries, according to this research:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.medicineatmichigan.org/magazine/1999/fall/emergency/research.asp" title="" rel="nofollow">Alcohol and Injuries</a></p>
<p>Also difficult, says Zink, is erasing the notion that being drunk can actually protect people from injury because they’re “more relaxed.” “We’ve observed that alcohol worsens injury and increases mortality, after motor vehicle crashes in particular,”</p>
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		<title>By: Patterico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patterico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The purpose of my analogy was to address the narrower claim that failure to immediately deport illegals who commit crimes “causes” these tragic stories Patterico is recounting. The causal connection is, in fact, as thin as that of anti-abortion policies to crimes committed by babies that grow up to be criminals.

. . . .

We know that some babies will commit crimes in the future as surely as we know that some illegal aliens arrested for crimes in this country will commit more crimes later. In that sense, my analogy works as intended.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Phil, your analogy makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, in part for the reason DRJ suggested.

Remember the L.A. Times story on the early release policy from L.A. jails?  (I wrote about it &lt;a href=&quot;http://patterico.com/2006/05/14/leniency-has-a-cost/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.)  The story documented some crimes that would not have happened absent the early release policy.

It would have been absurd to respond to that by invoking abortion, just as it is utterly absurd for you to respond to my posts by invoking abortion.  If you could come up with an example in which 1) the aborted babies had done something to deserve to be aborted; 2) the law already states that they should be aborted for having committed the deed; 3) we&#039;re not aborting all the babies the law says we should abort; and 4) one of the babies whom we can identify as one that should have been aborted kills someone -- then, you&#039;d be cooking with gas.

As it is, you&#039;re bone dry of any relevance at all.  It&#039;s just a patently silly example.  Sorry.  I calls &#039;em like I sees &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The purpose of my analogy was to address the narrower claim that failure to immediately deport illegals who commit crimes “causes” these tragic stories Patterico is recounting. The causal connection is, in fact, as thin as that of anti-abortion policies to crimes committed by babies that grow up to be criminals.</p>
<p>. . . .</p>
<p>We know that some babies will commit crimes in the future as surely as we know that some illegal aliens arrested for crimes in this country will commit more crimes later. In that sense, my analogy works as intended.</p></blockquote>
<p>Phil, your analogy makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, in part for the reason DRJ suggested.</p>
<p>Remember the L.A. Times story on the early release policy from L.A. jails?  (I wrote about it <a href="http://patterico.com/2006/05/14/leniency-has-a-cost/" target="_blank" title="" rel="nofollow">here</a>.)  The story documented some crimes that would not have happened absent the early release policy.</p>
<p>It would have been absurd to respond to that by invoking abortion, just as it is utterly absurd for you to respond to my posts by invoking abortion.  If you could come up with an example in which 1) the aborted babies had done something to deserve to be aborted; 2) the law already states that they should be aborted for having committed the deed; 3) we&#8217;re not aborting all the babies the law says we should abort; and 4) one of the babies whom we can identify as one that should have been aborted kills someone &#8212; then, you&#8217;d be cooking with gas.</p>
<p>As it is, you&#8217;re bone dry of any relevance at all.  It&#8217;s just a patently silly example.  Sorry.  I calls &#8216;em like I sees &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: PAUL BATTAGLIA</title>
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		<dc:creator>PAUL BATTAGLIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a 30 year cop in Texas I&#039;ve arrested my fair share of &quot;wetbacks&quot;, now known as illegal aliens. Most were hard working individuals who got rowdy during a weekend. Immigration didn&#039;t have time for them.

I once stopped a pickup traveling north on IH 35 in San Marcos, Texas with 29 illegals, immigration didn&#039;t have time for them...it was after hours on the week end.

I arrested a Mexican dope dealer in San Antonio who sexually abused a 14 year old girl. I contacted immigration in the hopes of getting a   hold placed on him, so that he couldn&#039;t make bail on drug an child sexual abuse charges. Immigration had time for him, he was deported almost immediately.

Be careful what you wish for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a 30 year cop in Texas I&#8217;ve arrested my fair share of &#8220;wetbacks&#8221;, now known as illegal aliens. Most were hard working individuals who got rowdy during a weekend. Immigration didn&#8217;t have time for them.</p>
<p>I once stopped a pickup traveling north on IH 35 in San Marcos, Texas with 29 illegals, immigration didn&#8217;t have time for them&#8230;it was after hours on the week end.</p>
<p>I arrested a Mexican dope dealer in San Antonio who sexually abused a 14 year old girl. I contacted immigration in the hopes of getting a   hold placed on him, so that he couldn&#8217;t make bail on drug an child sexual abuse charges. Immigration had time for him, he was deported almost immediately.</p>
<p>Be careful what you wish for.</p>
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