Comments on: What’s Really Going on With the Grazergate Deal? http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/ Harangues that just make sense Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:21:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Kevin Murphy http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-253371 Kevin Murphy Sun, 25 Mar 2007 07:23:59 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/6021/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/#comment-253371 I think that the Grazer deal absolutely broke it with the newsroom folks. Here Martinez rebuffed every effort by the activist newsroom staff to <strike>infect</strike> inject their views into the Opinion pages, then he goes out and lets some movie producer have the whole Sunday section! Kinda like those girls in college who'd sleep with everyone except them. I think that the Grazer deal absolutely broke it with the newsroom folks. Here Martinez rebuffed every effort by the activist newsroom staff to infect inject their views into the Opinion pages, then he goes out and lets some movie producer have the whole Sunday section!

Kinda like those girls in college who’d sleep with everyone except them.

]]> By: Christopher Taylor http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-252720 Christopher Taylor Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:39:14 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/6021/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/#comment-252720 That seems more plausible than the given explanation, the entire "scandal" confused me, I figured there was just more to it than I understood. No, I understood the ins and outs, it's just not as bad as they are reacting to. And given many of the outrageously biased things that the LA Times has put out in the last years, it's not only plausible but likely. That seems more plausible than the given explanation, the entire “scandal” confused me, I figured there was just more to it than I understood. No, I understood the ins and outs, it’s just not as bad as they are reacting to. And given many of the outrageously biased things that the LA Times has put out in the last years, it’s not only plausible but likely.

]]> By: cts22 http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-251862 cts22 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:35:51 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/6021/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/#comment-251862 All this over two lousy pages in the paper where you already know what was written by looking at either the writer's name or their bio. And on top of it, no brassiere ads. All this over two lousy pages in the paper where you already know what was written by looking at either the writer’s name or their bio. And on top of it, no brassiere ads.

]]> By: assistant devil's advocate http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-251663 assistant devil's advocate Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:55:01 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/6021/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/#comment-251663 if you eat bonbons for breakfast, lunch and dinner, you'll get fat. if you eat bonbons for breakfast, lunch and dinner, you’ll get fat.

]]> By: Sherlock http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-251617 Sherlock Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:33:40 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/6021/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/#comment-251617 I find it amazing how so many people will accuse "the government" or "Rove" of controlling what they see and read in the news, and how few care that in many cities, two or three people do exactly, literally that, and nobody in the general public even knows their names, credentials or backgrounds. I got into an argument with my carpool-mates the other day about the US Attorneys flap. Every one of them thought it was just another symptom of Republican corruption. I asked how come none of them were as concerned about Clinton's firing of 93 USA's in his first week in office. Right away everyone started explaning how "that's different". But I asked "How many of you had heard that before I just mentioned it?" Nobody had, not one. My response was to ask: a. How can you compare the two situations when you didn't know one of them existed 2 minutes ago? b. Why aren't you wondering how come you have never heard or read about such an obviously-related issue? Even if the two things ARE different, <em>who made that decision and decided one of them didn't need to be made known to the public?</em> And tell me again how ill-informed I am compared to you folks, please. I find it amazing how so many people will accuse “the government” or “Rove” of controlling what they see and read in the news, and how few care that in many cities, two or three people do exactly, literally that, and nobody in the general public even knows their names, credentials or backgrounds.

I got into an argument with my carpool-mates the other day about the US Attorneys flap. Every one of them thought it was just another symptom of Republican corruption. I asked how come none of them were as concerned about Clinton’s firing of 93 USA’s in his first week in office. Right away everyone started explaning how “that’s different”.

But I asked “How many of you had heard that before I just mentioned it?” Nobody had, not one.
My response was to ask:
a. How can you compare the two situations when you didn’t know one of them existed 2 minutes ago?
b. Why aren’t you wondering how come you have never heard or read about such an obviously-related issue? Even if the two things ARE different, who made that decision and decided one of them didn’t need to be made known to the public?

And tell me again how ill-informed I am compared to you folks, please.

]]> By: semanticleo http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-251538 semanticleo Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:02:57 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/6021/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/#comment-251538 "A cabal of staffers in the newsroom tries to influence the direction of the opinion page, some for “ideological” reasons. Martinez resists this attempt at interference." OK, OK, we get it. The latimes is a rag that has been destroyed by the Chicago Mob. Let's move on. “A cabal of staffers in the newsroom tries to influence the direction of the opinion page, some for “ideological” reasons. Martinez resists this attempt at interference.”

OK, OK, we get it. The latimes is a rag that has been destroyed by the Chicago Mob. Let’s move on.

]]> By: Edward http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-251338 Edward Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:25:18 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/6021/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/#comment-251338 nk, Opinions are opinions are opinions. You and I could take the same set of facts and come to a complete different opinion on what those facts mean. I'm not creating some ideal here. News does drive opinion, but reporters and news editors aren't allowed to drive. nk,
Opinions are opinions are opinions. You and I could take the same set of facts and come to a complete different opinion on what those facts mean. I’m not creating some ideal here. News does drive opinion, but reporters and news editors aren’t allowed to drive.

]]> By: Mike K http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-251291 Mike K Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:57:24 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/6021/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/#comment-251291 I gave up on the Times years ago although I read the web version of the Sports page during football season. Once I even decided to help support the web version by subscribing again after I got one of those nine dollar a month offers. The business office screwed that up by sending me overdue notices before I got the first bill. I gave up and cancelled again. They are hopeless. I'd be willing to pay for an online-only subscription, sort of like shareware, but they can't even get their billing correct. The Royal Society of Medicine Journal has just that, an electronic-only subscription. I gave up on the Times years ago although I read the web version of the Sports page during football season. Once I even decided to help support the web version by subscribing again after I got one of those nine dollar a month offers. The business office screwed that up by sending me overdue notices before I got the first bill. I gave up and cancelled again. They are hopeless. I’d be willing to pay for an online-only subscription, sort of like shareware, but they can’t even get their billing correct. The Royal Society of Medicine Journal has just that, an electronic-only subscription.

]]> By: Ken http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-250965 Ken Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:18:59 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/6021/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/#comment-250965 The Times is like a drunken prostitute lying on the sidewalk, trying to convince you that she has class - by fussing with her mascara. The Times is like a drunken prostitute lying on the sidewalk, trying to convince you that she has class – by fussing with her mascara.

]]> By: Kevin Murphy http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-250926 Kevin Murphy Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:50:15 +0000 http://patterico.com/2007/03/23/6021/whats-really-going-on-with-the-grazergate-deal/#comment-250926 This was all about getting control of the editorial page. Watch who gets it. All I can think when I see something like this is "What would Odin do?" This was all about getting control of the editorial page. Watch who gets it.

All I can think when I see something like this is “What would Odin do?”

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