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	<title>Comments on: On Rhetorical (?) Questions About Outing Jamil Hussein</title>
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		<title>By: Another Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.patterico.com/2007/01/31/on-rhetorical-questions-about-outing-jamil-hussein/#comment-164326</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, we (the VRWC) should not release his actual identity.  Since the Left is infamous for eating its' own, they will eventually reveal to the world who he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, we (the VRWC) should not release his actual identity.  Since the Left is infamous for eating its&#8217; own, they will eventually reveal to the world who he is.</p>
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		<title>By: DRJ</title>
		<link>http://www.patterico.com/2007/01/31/on-rhetorical-questions-about-outing-jamil-hussein/#comment-164018</link>
		<dc:creator>DRJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Patterico that it might endanger Jamil [not] Hussein, plus there is minimal benefit from outing him.  The story now is not Jamil's true identity.  The story is the AP itself and whether it can substantiate its last 2 years of questionable Jamil Hussein reports and its Baghdad reports in general.  Outing Jamil lets the AP divert public scrutiny away from its questionable reports and put the focus back on Jamil, something it seems very willing to let happen if it will help this story go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Patterico that it might endanger Jamil [not] Hussein, plus there is minimal benefit from outing him.  The story now is not Jamil&#8217;s true identity.  The story is the AP itself and whether it can substantiate its last 2 years of questionable Jamil Hussein reports and its Baghdad reports in general.  Outing Jamil lets the AP divert public scrutiny away from its questionable reports and put the focus back on Jamil, something it seems very willing to let happen if it will help this story go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley J. Fikes</title>
		<link>http://www.patterico.com/2007/01/31/on-rhetorical-questions-about-outing-jamil-hussein/#comment-163961</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradley J. Fikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's sufficient to have shown that "Jamil" is a pseudonym. If "Jamil" is actually trying to stoke the flames of civil war, then the Iraqi authorities should arrest and try him for that offense, or at least fire him. I wonder why they haven't done so. (Of course, I'm assuming that if CY can uncover "Jamil's" true identity, the Iraqi authorities certainly must know).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s sufficient to have shown that &#8220;Jamil&#8221; is a pseudonym. If &#8220;Jamil&#8221; is actually trying to stoke the flames of civil war, then the Iraqi authorities should arrest and try him for that offense, or at least fire him. I wonder why they haven&#8217;t done so. (Of course, I&#8217;m assuming that if CY can uncover &#8220;Jamil&#8217;s&#8221; true identity, the Iraqi authorities certainly must know).</p>
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		<title>By: Veeshir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veeshir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patterico,
How many people has Jamil Hussein killed? How many retaliations have there been for the multiple, never-confirmed, possibly-to-probably false stories that used him as a source? 

Who are you protecting him from? Certainly not the Baathist jihadis, he's obviously on their side. Probably not the al Quaeda jihadis as those stories advanced their chosen story-line. Probably not the criminals acting as jihadis, they are only in it for themselves. No, you're protecting him from the people he's quite obviously at war with, shiite jihadis and the Iraqi Army (no, the shiite jihadis and the Iraqi Army aren't, or shouldn't be, on the same side, but they can be against the same people, the enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend). 

I don't know if I think it's right to out him, but the facts aren't as clear cut as you seem to think. Jamil Hussein is obviously at war and is using the media as his weapon. All of his stories, that I know of, portrayed the shiites as murderously rampaging amone innocent sunnis. Does he get a pass? Would you have outed Lord Haw Haw? Tokyo Rose? Just because he's some cut-rate, AP source, doesn't mean he isn't spreading enemy propaganda and therefore, is the enemy to the people who are trying to make Iraq into a stable, free, democratic-republic.

I have to admit, I thought pretty much as you did until I noticed the last block quote at Confederate Yankee's post &lt;b&gt;Jamil is a proven bad source whose  stories seem designed to help the Sunnis and the insurgents at the expense of the Iraqi Army....... It is fair game to out sources who lie like that"&lt;/b&gt;
So no, the issue isn't so clear cut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patterico,<br />
How many people has Jamil Hussein killed? How many retaliations have there been for the multiple, never-confirmed, possibly-to-probably false stories that used him as a source? </p>
<p>Who are you protecting him from? Certainly not the Baathist jihadis, he&#8217;s obviously on their side. Probably not the al Quaeda jihadis as those stories advanced their chosen story-line. Probably not the criminals acting as jihadis, they are only in it for themselves. No, you&#8217;re protecting him from the people he&#8217;s quite obviously at war with, shiite jihadis and the Iraqi Army (no, the shiite jihadis and the Iraqi Army aren&#8217;t, or shouldn&#8217;t be, on the same side, but they can be against the same people, the enemy of your enemy isn&#8217;t always your friend). </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I think it&#8217;s right to out him, but the facts aren&#8217;t as clear cut as you seem to think. Jamil Hussein is obviously at war and is using the media as his weapon. All of his stories, that I know of, portrayed the shiites as murderously rampaging amone innocent sunnis. Does he get a pass? Would you have outed Lord Haw Haw? Tokyo Rose? Just because he&#8217;s some cut-rate, AP source, doesn&#8217;t mean he isn&#8217;t spreading enemy propaganda and therefore, is the enemy to the people who are trying to make Iraq into a stable, free, democratic-republic.</p>
<p>I have to admit, I thought pretty much as you did until I noticed the last block quote at Confederate Yankee&#8217;s post <b>Jamil is a proven bad source whose  stories seem designed to help the Sunnis and the insurgents at the expense of the Iraqi Army&#8230;&#8230;. It is fair game to out sources who lie like that&#8221;</b><br />
So no, the issue isn&#8217;t so clear cut.</p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
		<link>http://www.patterico.com/2007/01/31/on-rhetorical-questions-about-outing-jamil-hussein/#comment-163924</link>
		<dc:creator>TCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullshit.  Reveal the name.  Share news.  Tell the truth.  Let the sun shine in.  Let the chips fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullshit.  Reveal the name.  Share news.  Tell the truth.  Let the sun shine in.  Let the chips fall.</p>
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		<title>By: Dafydd</title>
		<link>http://www.patterico.com/2007/01/31/on-rhetorical-questions-about-outing-jamil-hussein/#comment-163874</link>
		<dc:creator>Dafydd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Patterico:&lt;/strong&gt;

Here's a very simple point that cannot be made too often:

If the Left is saying "don't reveal Jamil Hussein's &lt;em&gt;real name&lt;/em&gt;," then they are admitting that &lt;strong&gt;there is no "Jamil Hussein."&lt;/strong&gt;  Not under that name.

At best, there was another person masquerading under that name... and therefore, the conservatives were &lt;em&gt;right all along&lt;/em&gt;.

Am I missing some link in this chain of logic?

Dafydd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Patterico:</strong></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a very simple point that cannot be made too often:</p>
<p>If the Left is saying &#8220;don&#8217;t reveal Jamil Hussein&#8217;s <em>real name</em>,&#8221; then they are admitting that <strong>there is no &#8220;Jamil Hussein.&#8221;</strong>  Not under that name.</p>
<p>At best, there was another person masquerading under that name&#8230; and therefore, the conservatives were <em>right all along</em>.</p>
<p>Am I missing some link in this chain of logic?</p>
<p>Dafydd</p>
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		<title>By: papertiger</title>
		<link>http://www.patterico.com/2007/01/31/on-rhetorical-questions-about-outing-jamil-hussein/#comment-163821</link>
		<dc:creator>papertiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't need to know AP stringer's real name
However I will require more then "scientist's agree" when the papers write on the subject of global warming. Our politico's are actually making laws based on this unsubstanciated, anonymously accredited, seudo science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t need to know AP stringer&#8217;s real name<br />
However I will require more then &#8220;scientist&#8217;s agree&#8221; when the papers write on the subject of global warming. Our politico&#8217;s are actually making laws based on this unsubstanciated, anonymously accredited, seudo science.</p>
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