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	<title>Comments on: Kate Coe on Press Coverage (Including LAT Coverage) of the Long Beach Black-on-White Hate Crimes</title>
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		<title>By: Twaddlefree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twaddlefree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 07:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Easy way out — find kids guilty, make them wards of the court, send them home on probation. No harm, no foul.&quot;

Maybe. BUT, it won&#039;t be so &quot;easy&quot; for these young people who obviously had no parental training and who are very likely to violate probation. There won&#039;t be any second chance. 

Probably? They won&#039;t get just probation if the judge &quot;convicts.&quot; The crimes are far too serious. No hate crime conviction, though...the concession the judge will make in order to justify convictions. 

ALL of the principals in this case are whacko. Never in my life have I seen a judge deny DNA evidence to be heard because it might take too much time. THIS IS PROOF and he won&#039;t hear it. 

Case is both fixed and fiddled...heh, heh....by political correctness and incompetence. 

But, these kids have spent a lot of time in JuvieJail...let&#039;s hope they learned something from that, even if it was probably that the race card just isn&#039;t going to get you off when you assault people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Easy way out — find kids guilty, make them wards of the court, send them home on probation. No harm, no foul.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe. BUT, it won&#8217;t be so &#8220;easy&#8221; for these young people who obviously had no parental training and who are very likely to violate probation. There won&#8217;t be any second chance. </p>
<p>Probably? They won&#8217;t get just probation if the judge &#8220;convicts.&#8221; The crimes are far too serious. No hate crime conviction, though&#8230;the concession the judge will make in order to justify convictions. </p>
<p>ALL of the principals in this case are whacko. Never in my life have I seen a judge deny DNA evidence to be heard because it might take too much time. THIS IS PROOF and he won&#8217;t hear it. </p>
<p>Case is both fixed and fiddled&#8230;heh, heh&#8230;.by political correctness and incompetence. </p>
<p>But, these kids have spent a lot of time in JuvieJail&#8230;let&#8217;s hope they learned something from that, even if it was probably that the race card just isn&#8217;t going to get you off when you assault people?</p>
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		<title>By: Another Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 19:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO BE FILED UNDER:  One gets the government one deserves.
This trial, and its&#039; attendant media coverage, is what you reap when you ride the PC whirlwind.  The complete lack of ability (or desire) to &quot;call a spade a spade&quot; within media/academic/intellectual circles is what will destroy Western Civilization.  These distractions will not happen under Sharia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO BE FILED UNDER:  One gets the government one deserves.<br />
This trial, and its&#8217; attendant media coverage, is what you reap when you ride the PC whirlwind.  The complete lack of ability (or desire) to &#8220;call a spade a spade&#8221; within media/academic/intellectual circles is what will destroy Western Civilization.  These distractions will not happen under Sharia.</p>
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		<title>By: nosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>nosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll concede that the Long Beach black-on-white assault case has degenerated into a hateful mess.  But the story here isn&#039;t the reluctance of the &quot;liberal press&quot; to cover a story &quot;that makes them uncomfortable.&quot;

The story here is the incompetence of the Long Beach Police and the District Attorney&#039;s Office prosecuting the case.  Amazing, the DDA is surprised by a defense assertion that two of the victims had been drinking while underage, because she didn&#039;t recognize what ETOH in a medical report meant and didn&#039;t ask anyone.  Improper line-ups and identification procedures.  Taping an interview with a crucial witness then not revealing there was a taping and finally discovering the tape had &quot;inadvertantly&quot; been taped over.  The inability of the D.A.&#039;s office and the police to protect the crucial witness from alleged intimidation.

Who is more uncomfortable?  The media or the DDA prosecuting the case or the DDA who is so outraged by the Durham D.A. in the Duke case and who edits this blog?

(Oh, my...now you can dismiss me as being &quot;confrontational&quot; again without addressing any of the embarrassing foibles of your office.)

Oh, and I do realize that many of these kids might end up being found guilty.  Or more correctly, the judge may sustain some of the allegations in the petition against many of the minors.  Juvenile Court -- no jury, and very varying interpretations of &quot;reasonable doubt&quot; by various bench officers.  Easy way out -- find kids guilty, make them wards of the court, send them home on probation.  No harm, no foul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll concede that the Long Beach black-on-white assault case has degenerated into a hateful mess.  But the story here isn&#8217;t the reluctance of the &#8220;liberal press&#8221; to cover a story &#8220;that makes them uncomfortable.&#8221;</p>
<p>The story here is the incompetence of the Long Beach Police and the District Attorney&#8217;s Office prosecuting the case.  Amazing, the DDA is surprised by a defense assertion that two of the victims had been drinking while underage, because she didn&#8217;t recognize what ETOH in a medical report meant and didn&#8217;t ask anyone.  Improper line-ups and identification procedures.  Taping an interview with a crucial witness then not revealing there was a taping and finally discovering the tape had &#8220;inadvertantly&#8221; been taped over.  The inability of the D.A.&#8217;s office and the police to protect the crucial witness from alleged intimidation.</p>
<p>Who is more uncomfortable?  The media or the DDA prosecuting the case or the DDA who is so outraged by the Durham D.A. in the Duke case and who edits this blog?</p>
<p>(Oh, my&#8230;now you can dismiss me as being &#8220;confrontational&#8221; again without addressing any of the embarrassing foibles of your office.)</p>
<p>Oh, and I do realize that many of these kids might end up being found guilty.  Or more correctly, the judge may sustain some of the allegations in the petition against many of the minors.  Juvenile Court &#8212; no jury, and very varying interpretations of &#8220;reasonable doubt&#8221; by various bench officers.  Easy way out &#8212; find kids guilty, make them wards of the court, send them home on probation.  No harm, no foul.</p>
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		<title>By: assistant devil's advocate</title>
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		<dc:creator>assistant devil's advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as i commented on the earlier blogpost, all batteries are hate crimes, and distinctions should not be drawn among them based on the races of the actors.  
the judge barred the dna evidence because he wanted to save courtroom time?  ok, we can see where this is going to end up.  can&#039;t the prosecutor get an interlocutory writ from the appellate court forcing admission of this evidence, or is the prosecutor in on the conspiracy too?
reiterating a theme from my manuel real comments, when public justice breaks down, private justice stands ready to fill the vacuum.  the white residents of bixby knolls are watching this and i don&#039;t think they&#039;re all stupid.  when they realize that black criminals are more equal than they are, the next time black teenagers surround white girls in that neighborhood, one of them will step up and administer summary private justice.  it&#039;s better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as i commented on the earlier blogpost, all batteries are hate crimes, and distinctions should not be drawn among them based on the races of the actors.<br />
the judge barred the dna evidence because he wanted to save courtroom time?  ok, we can see where this is going to end up.  can&#8217;t the prosecutor get an interlocutory writ from the appellate court forcing admission of this evidence, or is the prosecutor in on the conspiracy too?<br />
reiterating a theme from my manuel real comments, when public justice breaks down, private justice stands ready to fill the vacuum.  the white residents of bixby knolls are watching this and i don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re all stupid.  when they realize that black criminals are more equal than they are, the next time black teenagers surround white girls in that neighborhood, one of them will step up and administer summary private justice.  it&#8217;s better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn Barber's Corner</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Shawn Barber's Corner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hispanic-on-Black Violence: Protestors, Where Are You?...&lt;/strong&gt;

	Update: Good news about black folks! The man&#8217;s a hero. That was a totally selfless act.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hispanic-on-Black Violence: Protestors, Where Are You?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>	Update: Good news about black folks! The man&#8217;s a hero. That was a totally selfless act.<br />
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