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	<description>Harangues that just make sense</description>
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		<title>By: Tel-Chai Nation</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/12/06/arrest-warrant-issued-for-deb-frisch/comment-page-1/#comment-118631</link>
		<dc:creator>Tel-Chai Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Deb Frisch due for the slammer...&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;m glad that this is fiend is now about to be sent where she&#039;s long overdue, that being in a mental institution. Frisch had first been arrested in August, but since then has defied restraining orders and even missed a court date, so now, an arrest w...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Deb Frisch due for the slammer&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that this is fiend is now about to be sent where she&#8217;s long overdue, that being in a mental institution. Frisch had first been arrested in August, but since then has defied restraining orders and even missed a court date, so now, an arrest w&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: biwah</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/12/06/arrest-warrant-issued-for-deb-frisch/comment-page-1/#comment-118615</link>
		<dc:creator>biwah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G, you add to the steady drumbeat of strawman arguments that has supplanted 98% of the political discourse in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G, you add to the steady drumbeat of strawman arguments that has supplanted 98% of the political discourse in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/12/06/arrest-warrant-issued-for-deb-frisch/comment-page-1/#comment-118611</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many Americans has Bushco burned up in paramilitary assalts? How many American 4 year olds have been assalted by stormtroopers and deported back to Cuba? How many American women with children shot dead because of their beliefs? 

I miss the good old days of Clintonian civil liberty utopia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many Americans has Bushco burned up in paramilitary assalts? How many American 4 year olds have been assalted by stormtroopers and deported back to Cuba? How many American women with children shot dead because of their beliefs? </p>
<p>I miss the good old days of Clintonian civil liberty utopia.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the groves of academe - where common sense is banned and free speech is free only to the looney left!

And to think I originally wanted to be a professor of history back when I was young and REALLY foolish. Can you imagine the size of the ulcer I would have by now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the groves of academe &#8211; where common sense is banned and free speech is free only to the looney left!</p>
<p>And to think I originally wanted to be a professor of history back when I was young and REALLY foolish. Can you imagine the size of the ulcer I would have by now?</p>
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		<title>By: biwah</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/12/06/arrest-warrant-issued-for-deb-frisch/comment-page-1/#comment-118598</link>
		<dc:creator>biwah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin...except that you&#039;re right about the threats against conservative speakers.  WTF is up with that?  It may be too much lib dominance of educational culture for too long, but it&#039;s facile to simply say PC led to chair-throwing.  That is youth and stupidity more than it&#039;s liberal politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin&#8230;except that you&#8217;re right about the threats against conservative speakers.  WTF is up with that?  It may be too much lib dominance of educational culture for too long, but it&#8217;s facile to simply say PC led to chair-throwing.  That is youth and stupidity more than it&#8217;s liberal politics.</p>
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		<title>By: biwah</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/12/06/arrest-warrant-issued-for-deb-frisch/comment-page-1/#comment-118596</link>
		<dc:creator>biwah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin, I call revisionism.  The right &lt;em&gt;hated &lt;/em&gt;Clinton.  Do libs hate Bush more?  Maybe by a few shades of gray, but consider 2000 and the war and you&#039;ll see that part of it is simply circumstantial.  Clinton presided over a great economy and his corruption and sexual indiscretion were just of a smaller scale than the issues as a whole that we are dealing with today (note absence of blame/credit for such circumstances)

I just don&#039;t know.  On the one hand, we&#039;re not actually shooting each other like the Hatfields and McCoys.  On the other, by virtue of being overheated, political debate in its current state is well nigh useless.  I am one of those who really thinks most people are not far apart on most issues, absent the divisive rhetoric.  We are all quite alike in our basic preferences.

The allegations of treason and &quot;objective pro-terrorism&quot;  are ridiculous.  Libs are blinkered too, on a whole range of issues.  IMO our society has been idiocized by TV, and secondarily by PC culture.

***throw up hands***

bartender, &#039;nother manhattan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin, I call revisionism.  The right <em>hated </em>Clinton.  Do libs hate Bush more?  Maybe by a few shades of gray, but consider 2000 and the war and you&#8217;ll see that part of it is simply circumstantial.  Clinton presided over a great economy and his corruption and sexual indiscretion were just of a smaller scale than the issues as a whole that we are dealing with today (note absence of blame/credit for such circumstances)</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t know.  On the one hand, we&#8217;re not actually shooting each other like the Hatfields and McCoys.  On the other, by virtue of being overheated, political debate in its current state is well nigh useless.  I am one of those who really thinks most people are not far apart on most issues, absent the divisive rhetoric.  We are all quite alike in our basic preferences.</p>
<p>The allegations of treason and &#8220;objective pro-terrorism&#8221;  are ridiculous.  Libs are blinkered too, on a whole range of issues.  IMO our society has been idiocized by TV, and secondarily by PC culture.</p>
<p>***throw up hands***</p>
<p>bartender, &#8216;nother manhattan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geek, I just don&#039;t recall that many republicans threatening liberal public speakers in college, calling Clinton a terrorist, and generally hating Clinton supporters.  Not like what we see today.

OBVIOUSLY politics have always led to heated disagreement.  These days, part of many &quot;liberal&#039;s&quot; identity is that they hate the president and his supporters.  Quite different from the frustration with Clinton policies.  Most Republicans sais thing like, &quot;he&#039;d be fun to hang out with, but lacks leadership qualities like ethics and impulse control&quot;  Clinton supporters were not assumed to be stupid, rather they were holding different views/priorities.

I&#039;m not blaming anybody, I&#039;m identifying a change in society.  This could be (and largely is) due to Bush&#039;s inability to connect with people who don&#039;t already agree with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geek, I just don&#8217;t recall that many republicans threatening liberal public speakers in college, calling Clinton a terrorist, and generally hating Clinton supporters.  Not like what we see today.</p>
<p>OBVIOUSLY politics have always led to heated disagreement.  These days, part of many &#8220;liberal&#8217;s&#8221; identity is that they hate the president and his supporters.  Quite different from the frustration with Clinton policies.  Most Republicans sais thing like, &#8220;he&#8217;d be fun to hang out with, but lacks leadership qualities like ethics and impulse control&#8221;  Clinton supporters were not assumed to be stupid, rather they were holding different views/priorities.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not blaming anybody, I&#8217;m identifying a change in society.  This could be (and largely is) due to Bush&#8217;s inability to connect with people who don&#8217;t already agree with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geek:

If there weren&#039;t very many blogs existing when Mr Clinton was president, on what do you base your assertion that the right was behaving in the same manner then as the left is today?

When I read some leftist sites, and seem to find only commenters who know one adjective, I get the impression that even though we mean ol&#039; righties didn&#039;t like President Clinton very much, we&#039;d have expressed ourselves a little bit better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geek:</p>
<p>If there weren&#8217;t very many blogs existing when Mr Clinton was president, on what do you base your assertion that the right was behaving in the same manner then as the left is today?</p>
<p>When I read some leftist sites, and seem to find only commenters who know one adjective, I get the impression that even though we mean ol&#8217; righties didn&#8217;t like President Clinton very much, we&#8217;d have expressed ourselves a little bit better.</p>
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		<title>By: Geek, Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geek, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin:

I don&#039;t recall things on the right being much different when Clinton was President.  The big difference is that there weren&#039;t very many blogs back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall things on the right being much different when Clinton was President.  The big difference is that there weren&#8217;t very many blogs back then.</p>
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		<title>By: MunDane</title>
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		<dc:creator>MunDane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh,

we are no longer a nation of laws, but a nation governed by the ideals of the members.  That is, f you have the correct idealism, you are absolved from your crime as you are poltically responsible in the eyes of someone.

In addition: Doesn&#039;t doesn&#039;t it seem a tad juvenile to excuse bad behavior with the two pronged butterknife thrust of &quot;The philosophical opposite do it too!&quot; and &quot;The philosophical opposite did worse at some indefinite point in the past.&quot;

I guess moral and behavioral absolutes are uncomfortable as they might convict us of those things, if not now, in the the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh,</p>
<p>we are no longer a nation of laws, but a nation governed by the ideals of the members.  That is, f you have the correct idealism, you are absolved from your crime as you are poltically responsible in the eyes of someone.</p>
<p>In addition: Doesn&#8217;t doesn&#8217;t it seem a tad juvenile to excuse bad behavior with the two pronged butterknife thrust of &#8220;The philosophical opposite do it too!&#8221; and &#8220;The philosophical opposite did worse at some indefinite point in the past.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess moral and behavioral absolutes are uncomfortable as they might convict us of those things, if not now, in the the future.</p>
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