Comments on: Is the L.A. Times Repeating Enemy Propaganda? Or Is There Another Reason The Paper Is Getting Basic Facts Wrong and Failing to Report the Military’s Side? http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/ Harangues that just make sense Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:46:29 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: The Ozi Zion Blog » Blog Archive » It’s not personal, we do it to others as well http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/comment-page-4/#comment-607132 The Ozi Zion Blog » Blog Archive » It’s not personal, we do it to others as well Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:02:38 +0000 http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/5419/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/#comment-607132 [...] accuse the U.S. of killing women and children.  The investigation of the press distortion is shown here  I liked one of the comments from a letter writer [...] [...] accuse the U.S. of killing women and children.  The investigation of the press distortion is shown here  I liked one of the comments from a letter writer [...]

]]> By: » Had Enough of the Arrogance? Welcome to Big Journalism - Big Journalism http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/comment-page-4/#comment-606506 » Had Enough of the Arrogance? Welcome to Big Journalism - Big Journalism Thu, 07 Jan 2010 01:57:49 +0000 http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/5419/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/#comment-606506 [...] the Iraq war, I questioned an L.A. Times report that a U.S. airstrike in Ramadi had “pulverized” 15 homes and killed 30 [...] [...] the Iraq war, I questioned an L.A. Times report that a U.S. airstrike in Ramadi had “pulverized” 15 homes and killed 30 [...]

]]> By: repeating someones statment http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/comment-page-4/#comment-336355 repeating someones statment Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:35:16 +0000 http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/5419/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/#comment-336355 [...] numerous published ... knows who killed someone ?? yet somehow, nobody will speak to the police. ...http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reaso...The strawman called SUPERNATURAL Archive I - IIDBArchive I The strawman called SUPERNATURAL [...] [...] numerous published … knows who killed someone ?? yet somehow, nobody will speak to the police. …http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reaso…The strawman called SUPERNATURAL Archive I – IIDBArchive I The strawman called SUPERNATURAL [...]

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]]> By: Media Mythbusters Blog » Blog Archive » The Big Picture(s) [Karl] http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/comment-page-4/#comment-280107 Media Mythbusters Blog » Blog Archive » The Big Picture(s) [Karl] Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:15:22 +0000 http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/5419/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/#comment-280107 [...] On November 15, 2006 the L.A. Times reported the claims of locals that a US airstrike killed at least 30 people in Ramadi (including women and children). A Times correspondent in Ramadi said at least 15 homes were pulverized by aerial bombardment. By other accounts, those killed were adult males, killed by fire from tanks. The paper never printed the US military’s denial of an airstrike. The LAT stringer was accused of having ties to the insurgency by someone purporting to be a US soldier; soldiers stationed in Ramadi claimed the airstrike was a complete fabrication. Investigating the incident, the blogger Patterico found that people with experience in Iraq noted that al Qaeda either pays off, intimidates, or has sympathizers among many doctors in Iraq and that reports from doctors and “local residents” were highly suspect, as they rarely report males being killed. The LAT ultimately backed off the claims in its original story, but readers never learned whether the stringer had ties to the insurgency. [...] [...] On November 15, 2006 the L.A. Times reported the claims of locals that a US airstrike killed at least 30 people in Ramadi (including women and children). A Times correspondent in Ramadi said at least 15 homes were pulverized by aerial bombardment. By other accounts, those killed were adult males, killed by fire from tanks. The paper never printed the US military’s denial of an airstrike. The LAT stringer was accused of having ties to the insurgency by someone purporting to be a US soldier; soldiers stationed in Ramadi claimed the airstrike was a complete fabrication. Investigating the incident, the blogger Patterico found that people with experience in Iraq noted that al Qaeda either pays off, intimidates, or has sympathizers among many doctors in Iraq and that reports from doctors and “local residents” were highly suspect, as they rarely report males being killed. The LAT ultimately backed off the claims in its original story, but readers never learned whether the stringer had ties to the insurgency. [...]

]]> By: The Big Picture(s) [Karl] http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/comment-page-4/#comment-279759 The Big Picture(s) [Karl] Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:27:34 +0000 http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/5419/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/#comment-279759 [...] On November 15, 2006 the L.A. Times reported the claims of locals that a US airstrike killed at least 30 people in Ramadi (including women and children). A Times correspondent in Ramadi said at least 15 homes were pulverized by aerial bombardment.  By other accounts, those killed were adult males, killed by fire from tanks.  The paper never printed the US military’s denial of an airstrike.  The LAT stringer was accused of having ties to the insurgency by someone purporting to be a US soldier; soldiers stationed in Ramadi claimed the airstrike was a complete fabrication.  Investigating the incident, the blogger Patterico found that people with experience in Iraq noted that al Qaeda either pays off, intimidates, or has sympathizers among many doctors in Iraq and that reports from doctors and “local residents” were highly suspect, as they rarely report males being killed.  The LAT ultimately backed off the claims in its original story, but readers never learned whether the stringer had ties to the insurgency. [...] [...] On November 15, 2006 the L.A. Times reported the claims of locals that a US airstrike killed at least 30 people in Ramadi (including women and children). A Times correspondent in Ramadi said at least 15 homes were pulverized by aerial bombardment.  By other accounts, those killed were adult males, killed by fire from tanks.  The paper never printed the US military’s denial of an airstrike.  The LAT stringer was accused of having ties to the insurgency by someone purporting to be a US soldier; soldiers stationed in Ramadi claimed the airstrike was a complete fabrication.  Investigating the incident, the blogger Patterico found that people with experience in Iraq noted that al Qaeda either pays off, intimidates, or has sympathizers among many doctors in Iraq and that reports from doctors and “local residents” were highly suspect, as they rarely report males being killed.  The LAT ultimately backed off the claims in its original story, but readers never learned whether the stringer had ties to the insurgency. [...]

]]> By: BizzyBlog » Catching Up on Patterico’s “No Ramadi Air Strike” Story http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/comment-page-4/#comment-255044 BizzyBlog » Catching Up on Patterico’s “No Ramadi Air Strike” Story Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:03:42 +0000 http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/5419/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/#comment-255044 [...] original post, based on Brian’s One Oar in the Water entry that relayed info from a soldier disputing the [...] [...] original post, based on Brian’s One Oar in the Water entry that relayed info from a soldier disputing the [...]

]]> By: rik http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/comment-page-4/#comment-168986 rik Thu, 08 Feb 2007 04:06:03 +0000 http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/5419/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/#comment-168986 I have nothing to add to this debate, it just shows what Americans believe is evil, and that is the military. A pity they support the other side. Rik I have nothing to add to this debate, it just shows what Americans believe is evil, and that is the military. A pity they support the other side.

Rik

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » LA Times revisits controversial Ramadi airstrike story http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/comment-page-4/#comment-131369 Hot Air » Blog Archive » LA Times revisits controversial Ramadi airstrike story Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:54:02 +0000 http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/5419/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/#comment-131369 [...] Back in November, blogger Patterico spent a lot of time looking into an incident in Ramadi in which it was alleged in the L.A. Times that U.S. airstrikes killed several civilians. The incident in many ways set the stage for the ongoing questions about coverage of the Hurriya burning and the AP’s reliance on “Capt. Jamil Hussein”. [...] [...] Back in November, blogger Patterico spent a lot of time looking into an incident in Ramadi in which it was alleged in the L.A. Times that U.S. airstrikes killed several civilians. The incident in many ways set the stage for the ongoing questions about coverage of the Hurriya burning and the AP’s reliance on “Capt. Jamil Hussein”. [...]

]]> By: steve http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/comment-page-4/#comment-131357 steve Fri, 29 Dec 2006 06:55:52 +0000 http://patterico.com/2006/11/24/5419/is-the-la-times-repeating-enemy-propaganda-or-is-there-another-reason-the-paper-is-getting-basic-facts-wrong-and-failing-to-report-the-militarys-side/#comment-131357 Not to be pedantic, but I notice the Salas statement says U.S. airstrikes "did not target" anyone in Ramadi that night. That allows for the possibility one or more of the $20,000 laser-guided GBU 31's may have been mis-targeted. In any event, Moore has run out newly-named witnesses, stands by his reporting of women and children being killed and introduces a military-sourced angle of a nearby airstrike. [<i>Ten miles away is not "nearby" for an airstrike, in my view. It's nice to know that he stands by the reporting done by his unnamed stringer, though. -- P</i>] Not to be pedantic, but I notice the Salas statement says U.S. airstrikes “did not target” anyone in Ramadi that night. That allows for the possibility one or more of the $20,000 laser-guided GBU 31’s may have been mis-targeted.

In any event, Moore has run out newly-named witnesses, stands by his reporting of women and children being killed and introduces a military-sourced angle of a nearby airstrike.

[Ten miles away is not "nearby" for an airstrike, in my view. It's nice to know that he stands by the reporting done by his unnamed stringer, though. -- P]

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