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	<title>Comments on: Harry Shearer Responds to Patterico</title>
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	<description>Harangues that just make sense</description>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/09/18/harry-shearer-responds-to-patterico/#comment-80858</link>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"They are obsolete in that they were not designed to deal with and they are not effective in dealking with the type of enemy or the type of warfare being conducted these days"

If that's true, and it's hardly a foregone conclusion that it is, the GC's have provisions that allow a nation to formally withdraw from the obligations instead of violating them. The latter course as chosen by the Bush administration is dishonest and confirms the growing impression that America cannot be trusted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They are obsolete in that they were not designed to deal with and they are not effective in dealking with the type of enemy or the type of warfare being conducted these days&#8221;</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s true, and it&#8217;s hardly a foregone conclusion that it is, the GC&#8217;s have provisions that allow a nation to formally withdraw from the obligations instead of violating them. The latter course as chosen by the Bush administration is dishonest and confirms the growing impression that America cannot be trusted.</p>
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		<title>By: Good Lt</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/09/18/harry-shearer-responds-to-patterico/#comment-80429</link>
		<dc:creator>Good Lt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two words: Jazz. Oddessy.

/Spinal Tap forever</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words: Jazz. Oddessy.</p>
<p>/Spinal Tap forever</p>
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		<title>By: Mike S</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/09/18/harry-shearer-responds-to-patterico/#comment-80423</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cristoph,

You're exactly right. We go against the basic purpose of the Geneva conventions if we apply them to terrorists.

The terrorists have redefined warfare to have no rules. The one advantage that we have in fighting this type of enemy is that their leaders and planners are disbursed among the population, rather than in highly defended military bases. If we can get the right information, we can capture leaders and planners. Since the enemy has chosen to fight this way, it seems imperative to get the information and capture leaders and planners. If we capture leaders and planners, then we protect the civilian targets of terrorist attacks, and also prevent the needless deaths of the low-level terrorists who carry out the suicide bombings. We will also bring about a quicker end to the war, which is most beneficial to the civilian population that the terrorists hide among.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cristoph,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re exactly right. We go against the basic purpose of the Geneva conventions if we apply them to terrorists.</p>
<p>The terrorists have redefined warfare to have no rules. The one advantage that we have in fighting this type of enemy is that their leaders and planners are disbursed among the population, rather than in highly defended military bases. If we can get the right information, we can capture leaders and planners. Since the enemy has chosen to fight this way, it seems imperative to get the information and capture leaders and planners. If we capture leaders and planners, then we protect the civilian targets of terrorist attacks, and also prevent the needless deaths of the low-level terrorists who carry out the suicide bombings. We will also bring about a quicker end to the war, which is most beneficial to the civilian population that the terrorists hide among.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Bird</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/09/18/harry-shearer-responds-to-patterico/#comment-80415</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would so much simpler--and right--for us to just abide by the Geneva Conventions.  Put the detainees before a competent military tribunal to determine if they are indeed combatants and to judge whether or not they should be accorded prisoner-of-war status.  Even if not POWs, they must still be treated humanely under the GC, for the duration of this War Against Militant Islamism.  Since they are most likely not POWs, they can be questioned for hours on end, even aggressively, as long as they are treated humanely in the process.  Quite frankly, I see nothing "obsolete" about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would so much simpler&#8211;and right&#8211;for us to just abide by the Geneva Conventions.  Put the detainees before a competent military tribunal to determine if they are indeed combatants and to judge whether or not they should be accorded prisoner-of-war status.  Even if not POWs, they must still be treated humanely under the GC, for the duration of this War Against Militant Islamism.  Since they are most likely not POWs, they can be questioned for hours on end, even aggressively, as long as they are treated humanely in the process.  Quite frankly, I see nothing &#8220;obsolete&#8221; about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Bird</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/09/18/harry-shearer-responds-to-patterico/#comment-80414</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shorter Kimmitt:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shorter Kimmitt:</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Wright</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/09/18/harry-shearer-responds-to-patterico/#comment-80402</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we equating "questioning" with "torture" now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we equating &#8220;questioning&#8221; with &#8220;torture&#8221; now?</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/09/18/harry-shearer-responds-to-patterico/#comment-80357</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Forget “quaint”; “strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners” being rendered “obsolete” is what this debate is all about.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They are obsolete in that they were not designed to deal with and they are not effective in dealking with the type of enemy or the type of warfare being conducted these days.

Shorter Kimmitt: Duh, me so funny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Forget “quaint”; “strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners” being rendered “obsolete” is what this debate is all about.</p></blockquote>
<p>They are obsolete in that they were not designed to deal with and they are not effective in dealking with the type of enemy or the type of warfare being conducted these days.</p>
<p>Shorter Kimmitt: Duh, me so funny!</p>
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		<title>By: JVW</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/09/18/harry-shearer-responds-to-patterico/#comment-80265</link>
		<dc:creator>JVW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, you had Derek Smalls from Spinal Tap give you a shout out.  You are big time now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you had Derek Smalls from Spinal Tap give you a shout out.  You are big time now.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/09/18/harry-shearer-responds-to-patterico/#comment-80245</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 04:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, it's more on topic than I thought. I just realized the above link comes from the Dog Trainer. Have a look, Patterico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it&#8217;s more on topic than I thought. I just realized the above link comes from the Dog Trainer. Have a look, Patterico.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/09/18/harry-shearer-responds-to-patterico/#comment-80243</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 04:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*understanding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*understanding</p>
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