While most stopped clocks are right twice a day, you’ve just proven that a few really badly mangled ones manage to be wrong all the time.

Some of us are always ahead. rather than being protectionists for the past, we’re progressives for the future.

Is it so hard to understand that this country is our home and that you dont enter my home and help yourself to the snack bar and then demand that I serve you drinks!

Its odd isn’t it? Odd that people can’t just come up with the convenient analogy that analogizes away inconvenient parts of the problem.

Oh one more thing.. some say the text was eloquent.. wonder who actually wrote it??

Excuse me, but that doesn’t lock out illegals, but locks out modest Americans who don’t live 3 families to a house.

Understand that the banks will make a mortgage to an illegal family because they don’t balk at higher than usual interest ratesso the bank makes more money off of illegals than American citizens. The illegals pay a higher price and higher interest for a home because they’ll have several people with several income streams living in the house.

Understand there is a significant amount of Hispanic families who do NOT support the pro-illegal/open border position.

I want to sound a word of caution … I’m foresquare for securing the borders, infact, IMO they should permanently under the control of the military. That MUST come first. And as much as I want illegals to migrate back to Mexico..not only isn’t it feasble to have some sort of massive roundup and forcible deportation of 12 million people (and no matter how emotionally satisfying it is to contemplate such a solution to a long frustrating problem) but it is a particular human disaster just waiting to happen.

Think of it. Please tell me how you’ll pull up a bus to the home of a family that’s been here 15 years…who own their home, own a business, have money in US banks, have American citizen children in school…and cart them off with only the clothes on their back. Do you confiscate their property? Do they forfeit their home? Business? Furniture? Cars? And now that you have them on the bus, where do you go with them?

Practically, you cannot “round’em up”.

What you can do is dry of the jobs that had them travel here in the first place. Biometric ID cards to be able to hold ANY job. Criminal punishment of employers who hire illegals.

Then THEY will sell their property and leave.

Not really sure how you can document that since proof of citizenship is not required to enroll. Just going by empirical evidence, look at the numbers that disappeared when the border patrol was briefly doing interior enforcement in San Bernardino last year. Even in far away, but heavily Latino El Monte there was a noticeable effect.

But my lager point was that even a small interruption in per-student funding causes shockwaves in our educational-industrial complex. During the recent protest & boycott marches one of my coworker’s sons stayed out of school to support his friends who are citizens, but have illegal parents. It didn’t really matter to the school if they were legal or illegal – the school still lost funding those days. Now imagine what would happen if there was even a hint of real interior enforcement. Do you think the teachers union will endorse border control?

Patricia points out what I feel is a major contributor to the run up in real estate prices. Just too damn many people competing for the same space. Of course our economically ignorant public officials think the solution is to build low income housing. High prices seem to be the only remaining, if feeble barrier to increasing population in southern California.

I think it jibes quite well – just look at General Motors (or the city of San Diego). The unions will of course demand higher wages to placate the troops and maintain loyalty, but they will more importantly do what is needed to keep their numbers and income up.

Here in So. Cal, before the UFCW struck Vons [Safeway], they signed a lockout agreement with Albertsons and Ralphs effectively cutting off the livelihood and forcing the loyalty of thousands of unwilling participants. In the end the union caved on pretty much everything, except control of the pension fund which Vons had been trying to wrest away because of mismanagement. The supposedly non-negotiable two-tier wage structure brought in a raft of new dues payers and pension fund contributors at the expense of the old timers.

Between the (gasp!) medical co-pay and the reduction in hours, some of the checkers at my Vons have told me they now have a lower net income. What do you want to bet the union’s cash flow is as strong as ever?