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	<title>Comments on: Reporter Fired for Posting Anonymous Comments on the Internet</title>
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		<title>By: Don't_Feed_The_Liberals</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don't_Feed_The_Liberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 17:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick:

Can't you simply ask Roy Rivenburg if that was him posting?  He seems like an honest and straightforward guy, I'm sure he'll be happy to answer the question, particularly if it's you who's asking it: has he ever made posts on web logs using pseudonyms, commenting about his own work as a reporter at the LA Times?

[&lt;i&gt;Mmmm . . . I avoid such questions in the absence of any real evidence.  I'll let you ask him.  Let me know what he says.  -- Patterico&lt;/i&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick:</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t you simply ask Roy Rivenburg if that was him posting?  He seems like an honest and straightforward guy, I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll be happy to answer the question, particularly if it&#8217;s you who&#8217;s asking it: has he ever made posts on web logs using pseudonyms, commenting about his own work as a reporter at the LA Times?</p>
<p>[<i>Mmmm . . . I avoid such questions in the absence of any real evidence.  I'll let you ask him.  Let me know what he says.  -- Patterico</i>]</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 06:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes honesty doesn't pays and that what happened with the reporter but some fault lies on his part too. He should have think twice before posting such anonymous comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes honesty doesn&#8217;t pays and that what happened with the reporter but some fault lies on his part too. He should have think twice before posting such anonymous comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Don't_Feed_the_Liberals</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/05/10/reporter-fired-for-posting-anonymous-comments-on-the-internet/#comment-39046</link>
		<dc:creator>Don't_Feed_the_Liberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 21:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick:

Looks like the LAT has another sock puppet on the staff.  In 2005, Roy Rivenburg posted many times under pseudonyms when he was criticized by gay columnist Michelangelo Signorile for his article on gay marriage. A simple Google search of "Rivenburg" and "sock puppetry" yields several examples. He also posted book reviews of 'Test of Courage' under names other than his own.  

Someone else has pointed this out here, but you've deleted Rivenburg's name and banned the poster.  As a prosecutor and licensed member of the bar I'd think you're capable of being a bit more dispassionate when it comes to violations, whether of the law or of a newspaper's policy.  Or do you only favor enforcement when it serves your purposes and biases?

[&lt;em&gt;I banned someone who made an accusation &lt;strong&gt;without even purporting to provide evidence&lt;/strong&gt;.  Since then, someone made the same accusation and at least tried to provide evidence.  That person's comment stands and they are not banned.  So save your crap about evenhandedness.  As I prosecutor I am wary of accusations made without a shred of evidence.  In the comment I allowed to stand, all the commenter did was provide a link to Atrios, who speculated that it might be Rivenburg because the comments came from an LAT computer.  Flimsy!  By that logic, masha and workingjournalist are Hiltzik.  And your suggested Google search reveals nothing more.  So I'll leave your post up but will note that your accusation is utterly lacking in evidence.  What I find fascinating, and may follow up on, is that you appear to have made your comment from a Kinko's!  You must be really scared of being found out!  Now why would that be?  -- Patterico&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick:</p>
<p>Looks like the LAT has another sock puppet on the staff.  In 2005, Roy Rivenburg posted many times under pseudonyms when he was criticized by gay columnist Michelangelo Signorile for his article on gay marriage. A simple Google search of &#8220;Rivenburg&#8221; and &#8220;sock puppetry&#8221; yields several examples. He also posted book reviews of &#8216;Test of Courage&#8217; under names other than his own.  </p>
<p>Someone else has pointed this out here, but you&#8217;ve deleted Rivenburg&#8217;s name and banned the poster.  As a prosecutor and licensed member of the bar I&#8217;d think you&#8217;re capable of being a bit more dispassionate when it comes to violations, whether of the law or of a newspaper&#8217;s policy.  Or do you only favor enforcement when it serves your purposes and biases?</p>
<p>[<em>I banned someone who made an accusation <strong>without even purporting to provide evidence</strong>.  Since then, someone made the same accusation and at least tried to provide evidence.  That person's comment stands and they are not banned.  So save your crap about evenhandedness.  As I prosecutor I am wary of accusations made without a shred of evidence.  In the comment I allowed to stand, all the commenter did was provide a link to Atrios, who speculated that it might be Rivenburg because the comments came from an LAT computer.  Flimsy!  By that logic, masha and workingjournalist are Hiltzik.  And your suggested Google search reveals nothing more.  So I'll leave your post up but will note that your accusation is utterly lacking in evidence.  What I find fascinating, and may follow up on, is that you appear to have made your comment from a Kinko's!  You must be really scared of being found out!  Now why would that be?  -- Patterico</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 04:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem lies that he expressed his opinion in public or he had his own individual thinking.It would have been better if the reporter had not disclosed his opinion and remained shut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem lies that he expressed his opinion in public or he had his own individual thinking.It would have been better if the reporter had not disclosed his opinion and remained shut.</p>
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		<title>By: paul from fl</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul from fl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 21:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tempest in a teapot. They guy stupidly bad mouthed his employer and got caught. Did he get fired for "sock puppetry"? Naw, he got fired 'cuz he was stupid. I wouldn't be surprised if the putz used his office computer as well....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tempest in a teapot. They guy stupidly bad mouthed his employer and got caught. Did he get fired for &#8220;sock puppetry&#8221;? Naw, he got fired &#8216;cuz he was stupid. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the putz used his office computer as well&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 20:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many news directors at the 77 U.S. stations airing fake VNR's (video news releases) as legitimate stories got canned?

&lt;blockquote&gt;"In each case, these 77 television stations actively disguised the sponsored content to make it appear to be their own reporting. In almost all cases, stations failed to balance the clients' messages with independently-gathered footage or basic journalistic research. More than one-third of the time, stations aired the pre-packaged VNR in its entirety."

http://prwatch.org/fakenews/execsummary/&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Lancaster scribe was wrong, but managers often get by with far worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many news directors at the 77 U.S. stations airing fake VNR&#8217;s (video news releases) as legitimate stories got canned?</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In each case, these 77 television stations actively disguised the sponsored content to make it appear to be their own reporting. In almost all cases, stations failed to balance the clients&#8217; messages with independently-gathered footage or basic journalistic research. More than one-third of the time, stations aired the pre-packaged VNR in its entirety.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://prwatch.org/fakenews/execsummary/" rel="nofollow">http://prwatch.org/fakenews/execsummary/</a></p></blockquote>
<p>The Lancaster scribe was wrong, but managers often get by with far worse.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend AG</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 20:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm from Lancaster, and I read that paper...

And if any facts are being misstated, it's probably with a right wing slant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from Lancaster, and I read that paper&#8230;</p>
<p>And if any facts are being misstated, it&#8217;s probably with a right wing slant.</p>
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		<title>By: LTEC</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2006/05/10/reporter-fired-for-posting-anonymous-comments-on-the-internet/#comment-38982</link>
		<dc:creator>LTEC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 19:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Quinn ... said ... he began posting to "set the record straight" about topics he covered.&lt;/blockquote&gt;It looks like he &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; doing sock puppetry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Quinn &#8230; said &#8230; he began posting to &#8220;set the record straight&#8221; about topics he covered.</p></blockquote>
<p>It looks like he <em>was</em> doing sock puppetry.</p>
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		<title>By: Amphipolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amphipolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 18:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lancaster is a long way from LA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lancaster is a long way from LA.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 17:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Christopher's comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Christopher&#8217;s comment.</p>
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