Patterico's Pontifications

12/24/2005

The Group With the Most Votes Wins

Filed under: Dog Trainer,General,War — Patterico @ 9:17 am

This is rich. The L.A. Times says this morning in its lead editorial:

PRESIDENT BUSH IS FOND OF berating opponents of the Iraq war who allegedly claim that Arab nations such as Iraq aren’t ready for democracy. The president now needs to explain democracy to Iraq’s Sunnis and let them know that in elections like the one held last week, the group with the most votes wins.

Unfortunately for the Sunnis, those were the other guys.

Yeah, well, he tried to explain that same concept to Democrats in this country after the last presidential election, and they didn’t take to the explanation any better than the Sunnis are likely to.

Nor have Democrats behaved as though they understand the idea that “the group with the most votes wins.” Didn’t someone filibuster Bush’s judicial nominees and the renewal of the Patriot Act? Which group was that? The one with the most votes in Congress?

Question for Times editors: Is the United States not ready for democracy just because the Democrat party is filled with sore losers?

(Second question: where is your editorial saying that President Bush needs to explain democracy to the Democrats?)

Welcome to democracy, Iraq. It’s not always perfect, and it doesn’t leave everyone happy. But it beats what you had before.

14 Responses to “The Group With the Most Votes Wins”

  1. …democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

    –Churchill

    Army Lawyer (c35aff)

  2. Hey, you can’t impose democracy and you can’t impose freedom. Some descendents of slaves are complaining as though they are still slaves – though they never even were slaves. I rest my case: freeing the slaves was a bad move.

    Joe Peden (ffccb8)

  3. Democrats, “…didn’t take to the explanation any better than the Sunnis are likely to.”

    Yes, and for exactly the same reasons. Neither the Sunnis nor our homegrown insurgents are likely to win a majority of votes anytime soon. So, they carp and call for recounts, claim fraud, and otherwise try to get around the fact those pesky voters couldn’t get it right.

    It won’t work, but don’t think election results will ever actually settle matters. No, but there’s still a way for the self-anointed to take their proper place at the head of the table: Affirmative Action.

    Yep. That’s it. A disproportional quota system to ensure numerically underrepresented populations an equal opportunity to participate in government. We need to level the playing field so Sunni insurgents can have the same opportunities as the groups who got more votes. It’s a sure winner, and Democrat Party theologians might want to take note.

    Black Jack (ee9fe2)

  4. I thin y’all have missed the point. Because the people supposedly favored by the Bush Administration weren’t the absolute winners, the Democrats will claim that the President’s policy has obviously failed.

    Of course, had the people the Administration wanted to win actually won, then they’d be claiming that the election was rigged.

    Dana (a9eb8b)

  5. I’ll settle for having Bush explain this concept to Senate Republicans, who seem to be acting as if they’re a minority even though they hold 55/100 seats.

    Steven Den Beste (b57a45)

  6. The group with the most votes? How do you take yourself seriously, Patterico?

    Your government has been hijacked, your electoral system has been hijacked, your media have been coopted, and you’re stuck in the 80’s like a campus Young Republican who, without anything of substance to say, accuses Democrats of whining when they see injustices being done.

    You’re a simpleton.

    Dickie Jabot (f08098)

  7. Mr Jabot writes:

    The group with the most votes? How do you take yourself seriously, Patterico?

    Your government has been hijacked, your electoral system has been hijacked, your media have been coopted, and you’re stuck in the 80’s like a campus Young Republican who, without anything of substance to say, accuses Democrats of whining when they see injustices being done.

    You’re a simpleton.

    Well, Mr Jabot, the President got more votes than his opponent in 2004; that kind of sounds to me like winning. Republican congressional candidates got more votes than Democratic congressional candidates in 2004; that also sounds like majority vote winning.

    Which media have been hijacked, Mr Jabot? The New York Times, The Boston Globe, The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Los Angeles Times, ABC, CBS and CNN all seem to support the liberal causes and candidates; if the GOP has hijacked them, they’re doing a splendid job in escaping!

    Dana (a071ac)

  8. Dickie, you must be new here.

    Harry Arthur (b318a5)

  9. Is it my imagination, or has this site started to see more, and longer (not that I could ever complain about a lack of brevity) comments from liberals recently?

    Dana (a071ac)

  10. Can’t believe no one recalled this quote of Harry Reid:

    “We’ve become like the House of Commons. Whoever has the most votes wins. It hasn’t worked that way in 216 years”

    Thomas Hazlewood (f1686d)

  11. Dickie, you’ve got your talking points down, man. Way cool. Since this is a long weekend, take some time and document the case. Don’t forget the Diebold machines and the Ohio voter fraud. Actually, since those two are pretty well discredited, don’t waste your time on those.

    Check out the voter fraud that swept through Kansas and Montana. I’ve heard that over three million votes were wrongly counted for BusHitler that were really cast for Kerry. And then there were another 1.5 million miscounts in Nevada.

    Check it out. File a FOIA request. Contact the DNC. Stay busy.

    Becker (b5235c)

  12. Mr Jabot doesn’t have to do the work: The Brad Blog is always posting something about how terrible our electoral system is. If you’re interested in a laugh at just how pathetic some of the sore losers can be, that’s the place to check.

    Of course, since Mr Jabot made one quick posting here, and has not said a word about any of the brilliant responses he received, I wonder if he ever returned to view them at all.

    Dana (3e4784)

  13. I don’t think that Dickie wants “liberals” elected. He’s much too Progressive to vote for those co-opted tools of the corporate state.

    Probably reads the “Daily Worker” as much as those rightist MSM rags.

    Kevin Murphy (6a7945)

  14. “Yeah, well, he tried to explain that same concept to Democrats in this country after the last presidential election, and they didn’t take to the explanation any better than the Sunnis are likely to.”

    Boy that’s a pretty silly thing to say.

    actus (3c21a8)


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