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	<title>Comments on: Our 27 Months of Hell Brought to Us By Lyin&#8217; Joe Wilson</title>
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		<title>By: Pundit Review &#187; Blog Archive &#187; LA Times Keeps Up Anti-Military Campaign: This time going after Michael Yon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pundit Review &#187; Blog Archive &#187; LA Times Keeps Up Anti-Military Campaign: This time going after Michael Yon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The LA Times agenda driven coverage is not confined to Iraq alone. They continue to deceive and report half-truths in their coverage of the NSA wiretap scandal, in coverage of domestic oppoenents of the war, and in the debate over pre-war intelligence. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The LA Times agenda driven coverage is not confined to Iraq alone. They continue to deceive and report half-truths in their coverage of the NSA wiretap scandal, in coverage of domestic oppoenents of the war, and in the debate over pre-war intelligence. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LibMommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibMommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 01:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people really are brainwashed!  Stop SMOKING your crack and wake up!  Libby, Rove, Bush AND Cheney are GOING DOWN!

Clinton may have lied, but over 2,000 did not DIE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people really are brainwashed!  Stop SMOKING your crack and wake up!  Libby, Rove, Bush AND Cheney are GOING DOWN!</p>
<p>Clinton may have lied, but over 2,000 did not DIE!</p>
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		<title>By: eddie haskell</title>
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		<dc:creator>eddie haskell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie - Your retreat from &quot;Wilson is not a liar!&quot; to &quot;I could prove he isn&#039;t a liar but I don&#039;t have the time or energy and you guys won&#039;t believe me anyway and besides whether Wilson is a liar or not is beside the point because WHERE ARE THE WMDs?!?&quot; tells me the tinfoil hat is for year round wear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie &#8211; Your retreat from &#8220;Wilson is not a liar!&#8221; to &#8220;I could prove he isn&#8217;t a liar but I don&#8217;t have the time or energy and you guys won&#8217;t believe me anyway and besides whether Wilson is a liar or not is beside the point because WHERE ARE THE WMDs?!?&#8221; tells me the tinfoil hat is for year round wear.</p>
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		<title>By: damnum absque injuria &#187; News Flash</title>
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		<dc:creator>damnum absque injuria &#187; News Flash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This may come as a surprise to Patterico, but Clinton Watson Taylor just caught Joe Wilson in a lie. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This may come as a surprise to Patterico, but Clinton Watson Taylor just caught Joe Wilson in a lie. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
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		<dc:creator>TCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn&#039;t the UN force the inspectors in several years before?  They lacked will. They didn&#039;t ev</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t the UN force the inspectors in several years before?  They lacked will. They didn&#8217;t ev</p>
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		<title>By: The Editors, American Federalist Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Editors, American Federalist Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The WaPo spreading the same Lyin&#039; Joe BS:
http://www.federalistjournal.com/fedblog/?p=2583</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The WaPo spreading the same Lyin&#8217; Joe BS:<br />
<a href="http://www.federalistjournal.com/fedblog/?p=2583" rel="nofollow">http://www.federalistjournal.com/fedblog/?p=2583</a></p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
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		<dc:creator>TCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we could have kept him contained with inspectors that would have been fine.  But we only got them in there when we raised the specter of going in in force.  That was the cat and mouse that Saddam played.  He would play the waiting game.  Democracies have a hard time dealing with that and staying vigilant.  I mean France was trying to take the sanctions OFF and make things easier on Saddam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we could have kept him contained with inspectors that would have been fine.  But we only got them in there when we raised the specter of going in in force.  That was the cat and mouse that Saddam played.  He would play the waiting game.  Democracies have a hard time dealing with that and staying vigilant.  I mean France was trying to take the sanctions OFF and make things easier on Saddam.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;But here is my real point. You are so concerned and so full of venum over the supposed lies of Wilson. Lets say that everything he said was a lie, for the sake of arguement, where is your outrage over the false information given by Bush and crew which got us into this endless and unwinnable war?&lt;/blockquote&gt;I guess my response to you is this, Charlie - It is fine for you to take the position that the Iraq war was a bad decision for the country.  Many people feel the same way.

Unfortunately for you, there is no real evidence that the Administration was deliberately deceptive in making its case for war, and the American public by and large accepts that fact.  There may have been errors made, but none of them rose to the level of a lie, despite what many on the left preach daily to those who want that to be true.

I am fine with the war, I am glad we are fighting it, and I know we will win.  The war was worth fighting for no other reason than to remove a monstrous dictator who had murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people and was defying UN sanctions to the very day of the invasion.  The fact that the UN is replete with self-serving corrupt nations, even on the Security Council, is no excuse for us to ignore the danger that Saddam Hussein presented to the world and to his own people.

Wilson attempted to discredit the administration by trading on the credibility he obtained in a questionable manner from the CIA.  In the process, he contradicted his own report to the CIA and impinged upon the Iraq war debate with lies supported by credibility he didn&#039;t deserve.  The American people had a right to know: a) his credibility problem and b) the suspicious nature of his trip to Niger.

Given all these facts, whether you accept them as such or not, the decision to go to war was justified and right regardless of whether WMD&#039;s were ever found.  Wilson&#039;s falsehoods unfairly impugned the Administration&#039;s motives and provoked a response that in turn provoked an investigation. That is my opinion.  Your milage may vary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie said:</p>
<blockquote><p>But here is my real point. You are so concerned and so full of venum over the supposed lies of Wilson. Lets say that everything he said was a lie, for the sake of arguement, where is your outrage over the false information given by Bush and crew which got us into this endless and unwinnable war?</p></blockquote>
<p>I guess my response to you is this, Charlie &#8211; It is fine for you to take the position that the Iraq war was a bad decision for the country.  Many people feel the same way.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for you, there is no real evidence that the Administration was deliberately deceptive in making its case for war, and the American public by and large accepts that fact.  There may have been errors made, but none of them rose to the level of a lie, despite what many on the left preach daily to those who want that to be true.</p>
<p>I am fine with the war, I am glad we are fighting it, and I know we will win.  The war was worth fighting for no other reason than to remove a monstrous dictator who had murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people and was defying UN sanctions to the very day of the invasion.  The fact that the UN is replete with self-serving corrupt nations, even on the Security Council, is no excuse for us to ignore the danger that Saddam Hussein presented to the world and to his own people.</p>
<p>Wilson attempted to discredit the administration by trading on the credibility he obtained in a questionable manner from the CIA.  In the process, he contradicted his own report to the CIA and impinged upon the Iraq war debate with lies supported by credibility he didn&#8217;t deserve.  The American people had a right to know: a) his credibility problem and b) the suspicious nature of his trip to Niger.</p>
<p>Given all these facts, whether you accept them as such or not, the decision to go to war was justified and right regardless of whether WMD&#8217;s were ever found.  Wilson&#8217;s falsehoods unfairly impugned the Administration&#8217;s motives and provoked a response that in turn provoked an investigation. That is my opinion.  Your milage may vary.</p>
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		<title>By: Rip &#38; Read Blogger Podcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rip &#38; Read Blogger Podcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Rip &amp; Read #152 - 2005-10-30&lt;/strong&gt;

Here&#039;s what I Ripped and Read in my Podcast today:

What has Wilson to say today? In the LA Times he offers some ideas, which Patterico&#039;s Pontification read and commented on:

    Lyin Joe Wilson lies again in this mornings Los Angeles Times,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rip &#38; Read #152 &#8211; 2005-10-30</strong></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I Ripped and Read in my Podcast today:</p>
<p>What has Wilson to say today? In the LA Times he offers some ideas, which Patterico&#8217;s Pontification read and commented on:</p>
<p>    Lyin Joe Wilson lies again in this mornings Los Angeles Times,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bostonian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bostonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie, read the report, signed by a bi-partisan panel of Congressman (including Tom Daschle), before you bore us with further rantings.

Snooze.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie, read the report, signed by a bi-partisan panel of Congressman (including Tom Daschle), before you bore us with further rantings.</p>
<p>Snooze.</p>
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