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	<title>Comments on: FactCheck.org: Gospel if it Promotes the Leftist Position</title>
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		<title>By: Cafe Oregano</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/08/10/factcheckorg-gospel-if-it-promotes-the-leftist-position/#comment-19356</link>
		<dc:creator>Cafe Oregano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Friday Specials&lt;/strong&gt;

Grouchy Old Cripple takes a fair and balanced look at Air America. Michelle Malkin notes problems with the 9/11 Commission report. Stop the ACLU examines the hypocrisy of the ACLU. Patterico checks the facts. The Mudville Gazette shares a different...</description>
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<p>Grouchy Old Cripple takes a fair and balanced look at Air America. Michelle Malkin notes problems with the 9/11 Commission report. Stop the ACLU examines the hypocrisy of the ACLU. Patterico checks the facts. The Mudville Gazette shares a different&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dwilkers</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/08/10/factcheckorg-gospel-if-it-promotes-the-leftist-position/#comment-19242</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwilkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes, sorry messed that link up. =p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes, sorry messed that link up. =p</p>
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		<title>By: Dwilkers</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/08/10/factcheckorg-gospel-if-it-promotes-the-leftist-position/#comment-19241</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwilkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, my Houston Chronicle carried a fair sized article this morning....here we go a link:

&lt;a href="http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3305536" rel="nofollow"&gt;

In that article they cover the FactCheck debunk of the ad. Guess who's wire its on? The New York Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, my Houston Chronicle carried a fair sized article this morning&#8230;.here we go a link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3305536" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>In that article they cover the FactCheck debunk of the ad. Guess who&#8217;s wire its on? The New York Times.</a></p>
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		<title>By: MD in Philly</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/08/10/factcheckorg-gospel-if-it-promotes-the-leftist-position/#comment-19229</link>
		<dc:creator>MD in Philly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RETRACTION!! (partial)

My apologies to FactCheck, the book I referred to WAS NOT authored by any of them (but by another group called "Spinsanity" that claimed to be "unbiased").

Nonetheless, as someone who does try to be intellectually honest, I was never convinced of complete unbiased coverage.  My previous conclusion remains, FWIW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RETRACTION!! (partial)</p>
<p>My apologies to FactCheck, the book I referred to WAS NOT authored by any of them (but by another group called &#8220;Spinsanity&#8221; that claimed to be &#8220;unbiased&#8221;).</p>
<p>Nonetheless, as someone who does try to be intellectually honest, I was never convinced of complete unbiased coverage.  My previous conclusion remains, FWIW.</p>
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		<title>By: MD in Philly</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/08/10/factcheckorg-gospel-if-it-promotes-the-leftist-position/#comment-19227</link>
		<dc:creator>MD in Philly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, FWIW;

I followed FactCheck quite a bit prior to the election, haven't much since.  They certainly will point out problems on both sides of the political spectrum, but at the same time a few of them wrote a book titled "All of the President's Spin", claiming that George W. and Karl Rove were the worst/(best) at twisting things and deceiving the public that the White House had ever seen.  I still wonder how fully "non-partison" they are, vs willing to take shots at both sides to gain credibility as "unbiased" reporting so they have
more impact when they publish a book like the one attacking the President.

All that being said, I would trust what they say when it is positive for conservatives/republicans, I look harder when it is negative towards them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, FWIW;</p>
<p>I followed FactCheck quite a bit prior to the election, haven&#8217;t much since.  They certainly will point out problems on both sides of the political spectrum, but at the same time a few of them wrote a book titled &#8220;All of the President&#8217;s Spin&#8221;, claiming that George W. and Karl Rove were the worst/(best) at twisting things and deceiving the public that the White House had ever seen.  I still wonder how fully &#8220;non-partison&#8221; they are, vs willing to take shots at both sides to gain credibility as &#8220;unbiased&#8221; reporting so they have<br />
more impact when they publish a book like the one attacking the President.</p>
<p>All that being said, I would trust what they say when it is positive for conservatives/republicans, I look harder when it is negative towards them.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue berry</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/08/10/factcheckorg-gospel-if-it-promotes-the-leftist-position/#comment-19214</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A resounding yes ! Gospel does in theory promote the leftist position, but in practice seldom does so ...</description>
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		<title>By: Shredstar</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/08/10/factcheckorg-gospel-if-it-promotes-the-leftist-position/#comment-19208</link>
		<dc:creator>Shredstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I devour all this political stuff as entertainment. It seems everything anyone has to say is bullshit to push an agenda, and this is no exception. The point of this total nonsensical attack is plant some demon seed in the minds of many, to be referenced years from now when Roberts rules on an abortion case.

Abortionheads will say, "Oh, remember how Roberts defended abortion clinic bomber terrorists back in '05? (or at least we talked about it in '05) Well, wrt abortion SCOTUS rulings, we told you so you idiots!" Years from now, nobody will remember all the tedios nuances of today's accusations. Only the bullshit endures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I devour all this political stuff as entertainment. It seems everything anyone has to say is bullshit to push an agenda, and this is no exception. The point of this total nonsensical attack is plant some demon seed in the minds of many, to be referenced years from now when Roberts rules on an abortion case.</p>
<p>Abortionheads will say, &#8220;Oh, remember how Roberts defended abortion clinic bomber terrorists back in &#8216;05? (or at least we talked about it in &#8216;05) Well, wrt abortion SCOTUS rulings, we told you so you idiots!&#8221; Years from now, nobody will remember all the tedios nuances of today&#8217;s accusations. Only the bullshit endures.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Murphy</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/08/10/factcheckorg-gospel-if-it-promotes-the-leftist-position/#comment-19204</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 05:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/11/politics/11abort.final.html?hp&#38;ex=1123819200&#38;en=5d2c2f94824bf138&#38;ei=5094&#38;partner=homepage" rel="nofollow"&gt;NY Times has a straight story&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/11/politics/11abort.final.html?hp&amp;ex=1123819200&amp;en=5d2c2f94824bf138&amp;ei=5094&amp;partner=homepage" rel="nofollow">NY Times has a straight story</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: The House Of Wheels</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/08/10/factcheckorg-gospel-if-it-promotes-the-leftist-position/#comment-19201</link>
		<dc:creator>The House Of Wheels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 04:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;This is why the blogosphere is so good&lt;/strong&gt;

Patterico sees leftist bias in virtually everything the LA Times does. Yet again, he's got evidence - this time that the LA Times loves quoting Factcheck.org, unless they stick up for conservatives like Roberts. A great read</description>
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<p>Patterico sees leftist bias in virtually everything the LA Times does. Yet again, he&#8217;s got evidence - this time that the LA Times loves quoting Factcheck.org, unless they stick up for conservatives like Roberts. A great read</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/08/10/factcheckorg-gospel-if-it-promotes-the-leftist-position/#comment-19200</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 04:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, trackback link coming soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, trackback link coming soon.</p>
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