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	<title>Comments on: Yet Another False Factual Assertion in an L.A. Times Letter to the Editor</title>
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		<title>By: Boman</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/07/16/yet-another-false-factual-assertion-in-an-la-times-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-17866</link>
		<dc:creator>Boman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rove - no crime
Valerie Plame - no secret agent
Joe Wilson - no truth
MSM - no shame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rove - no crime<br />
Valerie Plame - no secret agent<br />
Joe Wilson - no truth<br />
MSM - no shame</p>
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		<title>By: Black Jack</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/07/16/yet-another-false-factual-assertion-in-an-la-times-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-17817</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MSM's Plame Shame:

Shame on the MSM for their mendacity. They know the whole sorry issue is as phony as Dan Rather's memos, but they push it anyway. The matter involves exposing the identify of CIA covert agents. True, outing a covert agent is a crime, but Valerie Plame wasn't a covert agent, and hadn't been since 1997.  Plame, wife of Joe Wilson, does work for CIA at Langly, but in the nonproliferation section, not in any covert capacity. Her job was no secret, many friends and neighbors knew what she did, and so did many reporters in the DC MSM.

When the question of Saddam's attempt to purchase yellowcake from Niger surfaced, CIA wanted to investigate, and referred it to the nonproliferation section. There, Valerie Plame suggested her husband to look into it. The CIA accepted her recommendation and Wilson went to Niger, sat around the hotel pool, asked a few questions, returned, and wrote his report. It was inconclusive.

Subsequently unemployed, Wilson then embarked on a new career, attacking the Bush administration on the reasons for the Iraqi war. Joe claimed the Vice President had sent him to Niger on a secret mission. But, the VP never heard of Joe Wilson. So, quite logically, the key question more than suggested itself: if it wasn't the VP who sent Joe Wilson to Niger, who did?

So, that's how Valerie Plame's name came up. Joe Wilson's lies put her job at CIA in the media spotlight. Not that her desk job was undercover, but since she had been covert 6 or 7 years prior, Joe and the MSM decided to play the "Blame Game."

Exposing an undercover CIA agent is against the law, but Joe's wife wasn't undercover, and hadn't been for years. Karl Rove didn't "out" Valerie Plame and neither did anyone else in the Bush White House.

Her involvement in the matter became known exclusively because Yellowcake Joe wouldn't tell the truth about the origins of his trip to Niger. These facts are well known to the MSM. But their red-hot hate for Bush and his proxy, Karl Rove, goads them to suppress the truth and spew obvious disinformation to the very public they have a responsibility to inform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSM&#8217;s Plame Shame:</p>
<p>Shame on the MSM for their mendacity. They know the whole sorry issue is as phony as Dan Rather&#8217;s memos, but they push it anyway. The matter involves exposing the identify of CIA covert agents. True, outing a covert agent is a crime, but Valerie Plame wasn&#8217;t a covert agent, and hadn&#8217;t been since 1997.  Plame, wife of Joe Wilson, does work for CIA at Langly, but in the nonproliferation section, not in any covert capacity. Her job was no secret, many friends and neighbors knew what she did, and so did many reporters in the DC MSM.</p>
<p>When the question of Saddam&#8217;s attempt to purchase yellowcake from Niger surfaced, CIA wanted to investigate, and referred it to the nonproliferation section. There, Valerie Plame suggested her husband to look into it. The CIA accepted her recommendation and Wilson went to Niger, sat around the hotel pool, asked a few questions, returned, and wrote his report. It was inconclusive.</p>
<p>Subsequently unemployed, Wilson then embarked on a new career, attacking the Bush administration on the reasons for the Iraqi war. Joe claimed the Vice President had sent him to Niger on a secret mission. But, the VP never heard of Joe Wilson. So, quite logically, the key question more than suggested itself: if it wasn&#8217;t the VP who sent Joe Wilson to Niger, who did?</p>
<p>So, that&#8217;s how Valerie Plame&#8217;s name came up. Joe Wilson&#8217;s lies put her job at CIA in the media spotlight. Not that her desk job was undercover, but since she had been covert 6 or 7 years prior, Joe and the MSM decided to play the &#8220;Blame Game.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exposing an undercover CIA agent is against the law, but Joe&#8217;s wife wasn&#8217;t undercover, and hadn&#8217;t been for years. Karl Rove didn&#8217;t &#8220;out&#8221; Valerie Plame and neither did anyone else in the Bush White House.</p>
<p>Her involvement in the matter became known exclusively because Yellowcake Joe wouldn&#8217;t tell the truth about the origins of his trip to Niger. These facts are well known to the MSM. But their red-hot hate for Bush and his proxy, Karl Rove, goads them to suppress the truth and spew obvious disinformation to the very public they have a responsibility to inform.</p>
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		<title>By: James B. Shearer</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/07/16/yet-another-false-factual-assertion-in-an-la-times-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-17779</link>
		<dc:creator>James B. Shearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to quibble or anything but "weapons-grade uranium" means U-235 suitable for constructing a bomb not uranium ore. As far as I know Niger is not capable of producing weapons-grade uranium so the claim in the letter appears to be true although perhaps disengenuous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to quibble or anything but &#8220;weapons-grade uranium&#8221; means U-235 suitable for constructing a bomb not uranium ore. As far as I know Niger is not capable of producing weapons-grade uranium so the claim in the letter appears to be true although perhaps disengenuous.</p>
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		<title>By: Boman</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/07/16/yet-another-false-factual-assertion-in-an-la-times-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-17774</link>
		<dc:creator>Boman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who depends upon Joe Wilson for the truth is a fool.  Wilson is the kind of guy that would out his own wife and blame it on the Evil Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who depends upon Joe Wilson for the truth is a fool.  Wilson is the kind of guy that would out his own wife and blame it on the Evil Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/07/16/yet-another-false-factual-assertion-in-an-la-times-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-17770</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention the fact that Niger is not the only country in Africa that has uranium.  Even if it could be proven that nobody in Iraq had ever inquired into purchasing uranium in &lt;em&gt;Niger&lt;/em&gt;, that wouldn't be enough to disprove that Saddam sought quantities of uranium from &lt;em&gt;Africa&lt;/em&gt;.

(Correction to Brian O'Connell: the nationality term for people from Niger is "Nigerien," not "Nigerian" which refers to Nigeria.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention the fact that Niger is not the only country in Africa that has uranium.  Even if it could be proven that nobody in Iraq had ever inquired into purchasing uranium in <em>Niger</em>, that wouldn&#8217;t be enough to disprove that Saddam sought quantities of uranium from <em>Africa</em>.</p>
<p>(Correction to Brian O&#8217;Connell: the nationality term for people from Niger is &#8220;Nigerien,&#8221; not &#8220;Nigerian&#8221; which refers to Nigeria.)</p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/07/16/yet-another-false-factual-assertion-in-an-la-times-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-17724</link>
		<dc:creator>TCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 04:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gawd, you're as bad as meester "weapons grade".  It's PENTHOUSE, man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gawd, you&#8217;re as bad as meester &#8220;weapons grade&#8221;.  It&#8217;s PENTHOUSE, man!</p>
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		<title>By: capitano</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/07/16/yet-another-false-factual-assertion-in-an-la-times-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-17701</link>
		<dc:creator>capitano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh sure, and next you'll be telling me that those letters to the Playboy Forum were some sort of fantasized projection of what teenage boys wanted to believe.  We know the truth when we read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh sure, and next you&#8217;ll be telling me that those letters to the Playboy Forum were some sort of fantasized projection of what teenage boys wanted to believe.  We know the truth when we read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian O'Connell</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/07/16/yet-another-false-factual-assertion-in-an-la-times-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-17700</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian O'Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me a lot of all those IPCC (UN global warming) reports where the "executive summary" that the press reads and regurgitates doesn't quite match the info in the full report that no one reads and is a good place to bury information.

One didn't have to wait for Joe Wilson's later statements to see that he was a liar. His own summary of his Niger trip flatly contradicts the information contained in his full report.

Joe Wilson himself said that at least one Nigerian said that Saddam sought nuclear materials from Africa. Don't bother with British intelligence. That Wilson was ever held up as the opposition to the 16 words is astounding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me a lot of all those IPCC (UN global warming) reports where the &#8220;executive summary&#8221; that the press reads and regurgitates doesn&#8217;t quite match the info in the full report that no one reads and is a good place to bury information.</p>
<p>One didn&#8217;t have to wait for Joe Wilson&#8217;s later statements to see that he was a liar. His own summary of his Niger trip flatly contradicts the information contained in his full report.</p>
<p>Joe Wilson himself said that at least one Nigerian said that Saddam sought nuclear materials from Africa. Don&#8217;t bother with British intelligence. That Wilson was ever held up as the opposition to the 16 words is astounding.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Stanton</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/07/16/yet-another-false-factual-assertion-in-an-la-times-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-17693</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dafydd - you are right! I am not too young to remember. I fought the real JKF's war in Nam 40 years ago. I remember. And it has applied to the LAT since the Commie from the Farm took charge 45 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dafydd - you are right! I am not too young to remember. I fought the real JKF&#8217;s war in Nam 40 years ago. I remember. And it has applied to the LAT since the Commie from the Farm took charge 45 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Dafydd</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/07/16/yet-another-false-factual-assertion-in-an-la-times-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-17689</link>
		<dc:creator>Dafydd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Patterico:&lt;/strong&gt;

You may be too young to remember, but "truth" is whatever advances the cause of international socialism, while "a lie" is whatever drives it back.

Thus, David James of Long Beach told only "the truth" -- or in Russian, &lt;em&gt;pravda.&lt;/em&gt;

Dafydd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Patterico:</strong></p>
<p>You may be too young to remember, but &#8220;truth&#8221; is whatever advances the cause of international socialism, while &#8220;a lie&#8221; is whatever drives it back.</p>
<p>Thus, David James of Long Beach told only &#8220;the truth&#8221; &#8212; or in Russian, <em>pravda.</em></p>
<p>Dafydd</p>
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