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1/25/2005

Cornyn Op-Ed

Filed under: Politics — Patterico @ 7:03 am

Sen. John Cornyn has this op-ed today in support of Alberto Gonzales’s nomination for Attorney General.

6 Responses to “Cornyn Op-Ed”

  1. Cornyn failed to cite Sen. McCain’s opposition to the torture memo. Having been a POW himself, he fully realizes the importance of maintaining a convention against torture.

    Ruth (f9ff15)

  2. Yes, I’m sure John McCain could tell you exactly how much good the U.S.’s adherence to the Geneva Conventions did for American POWs. I mean, who knows what the North Vietnamese might have done to McCain if not for the Geneva Conventions?

    Xrlq (816c74)

  3. From today’s Washington Post lead editorial:

    In an attempt to close the loophole, Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (D-Conn.) sought to attach an amendment to the intelligence reform legislation last fall specifying that “no prisoner shall be subject to torture or cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment or punishment that is prohibited by the Constitution, laws or treaties of the United States.” The Senate adopted the provision unanimously. Later, however, it was stripped from the bill at the request of the White House. In his written testimony, Mr. Gonzales affirmed that the provision would have “provided legal protections to foreign prisoners to which they are not now entitled.” Senators who supported the amendment consequently face a critical question: If they vote to confirm Mr. Gonzales as the government’s chief legal authority, will they not be endorsing the systematic use of “cruel, inhumane and degrading” practices by the United States?

    Torture doesn’t play well, it would seem.

    Ruth (854b8f)

  4. It doesn’t because it’s an ugly concept. However, if a nuclear bomb was about to go off in a major city, and our guys nabbed someone who knew where it was, I’d want them to do whatever they could to get that information out of him. If they have to rough up one scumbag to save millions of innocents, so be it.

    Xrlq (ffb240)

  5. From such reading as I have done of intelligence community comments on torture, it is my understanding that the results are such that they can’t be trusted, and are often productive of ‘disinformation’ because of torture’s negative effects.

    Ruth (0827ca)

  6. The Gonzalez kerfufffle seems to wilfully ignore that the memo in question was an opinion from the DOJ, sought by Gonzales in his capacity as legal counsel to the President, to determine the legal rights of POW’s who were not combatants covered under the Geneva Coventions. It was not an opinion that he wrote, nor do we know what advice he gave to the president in his capacity as counsel. Additionally what is, and is not, torture has been, for the most part, ignored. It was leaked by someone in government who sought to discredit the Adminstration by connecting the Abu Graib crimes directly to DOD and Adminstration policy, including Guantanamo. The arguments against real torture are fine if you going to war with Geneva signatories-but the last few wars-Korea, Vietnam, Gulf One, and this one- are with people who aren’t, and who practice torture with impunity. Ergo, all the talk-baloney really-by Biden, et al, is really just grandstanding. vty kent

    kent schmidt (c79b49)


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