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	<title>Comments on: L.A. Times Runs Story on Omar and Mohammed</title>
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		<title>By: Pat in NC</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2004/12/29/ila-timesi-runs-story-on-omar-and-mohammed/#comment-7231</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat in NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The brothers have been a source of information that is not available in the MSM. They provide bad news along with the good. Their "problem" seems to be that they still have hope that their nation can be self governed and are willing to work toward that goal. I guess the "blame Bush and America for all the ills of this world group" would prefer them to be without any hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The brothers have been a source of information that is not available in the MSM. They provide bad news along with the good. Their &#8220;problem&#8221; seems to be that they still have hope that their nation can be self governed and are willing to work toward that goal. I guess the &#8220;blame Bush and America for all the ills of this world group&#8221; would prefer them to be without any hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Ladainian</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2004/12/29/ila-timesi-runs-story-on-omar-and-mohammed/#comment-7232</link>
		<dc:creator>Ladainian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LA Times has an interesting technique of rumor acceleration, by using the anonymous "they". Way more than they should, LA Times uses "many people think", "some say", "some people accuse ...".

The CIA rumor is based entirely on iraqthemodel.com being set up by a stupidly named CIATech.com company. (See whois on nsi.com) LA Times knows this, but it makes a better story to play dumb and publish Omar denying the accusation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LA Times has an interesting technique of rumor acceleration, by using the anonymous &#8220;they&#8221;. Way more than they should, LA Times uses &#8220;many people think&#8221;, &#8220;some say&#8221;, &#8220;some people accuse &#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>The CIA rumor is based entirely on iraqthemodel.com being set up by a stupidly named CIATech.com company. (See whois on nsi.com) LA Times knows this, but it makes a better story to play dumb and publish Omar denying the accusation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dafydd</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2004/12/29/ila-timesi-runs-story-on-omar-and-mohammed/#comment-7233</link>
		<dc:creator>Dafydd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Pat,&lt;/b&gt; that whole meme about Omar, Mohammed, and the no-longer-blogging Ali of &lt;i&gt;Iraq the Model&lt;/i&gt; being paid agents of the United States came originally from a foolish and thuggish blog aptly named &lt;i&gt;Martini Republic.&lt;/i&gt;  But the charge was far more sinister than most folks seem to realize.

The main blogger on this charge at &lt;i&gt;Martini Republic,&lt;/i&gt; Joseph Mailander, simply cannot be so dense as not to realize what it might mean to Sunni Iraqis living in Baghdad if their neighbors started to think they were paid agents of the CIA, or even the "490th Army Civil Reserve Unit," as Mailander specifically claimed.

Simply put, I suspect Mr. Mailander, and perhaps the entire team over at &lt;i&gt;Martini Republic&lt;/i&gt; -- not to mention "Professor" Juan Cole of &lt;i&gt;Informed [sic] Comment&lt;/i&gt;, who hyped the charges and added to them -- were hoping that one or more of the brothers would be murdered, or that the blogsite would be bombed off the internet.  The liberal bloggers display in other posts the complete disregard for Iraqi life that is typical of liberals across America; why would they feel anything but giddy glee if three problematical "neocon" Iraqi bloggers were slain?

In my opinion, we've all dipped a toe into the true, vicious, dark side of the Left, which has historically seen violence, riot, and murder as legitimate tools to advance its lamentable cause.  In this case, the bloody reach of Mailander and Cole far exceeds their rather pathetic grasp, and nobody in Iraq appears to be buying what &lt;i&gt;Martini Republic&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Informed Comment&lt;/i&gt; are selling.

But someday, perhaps, they will concoct a charge in a believable enough way that they will get some "enemy" of theirs butchered.  And they will wave the bloody scalp and dance about in joyous abandon.  Considering what fire they play with, it's virtually inevitable.

Dafydd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Pat,</b> that whole meme about Omar, Mohammed, and the no-longer-blogging Ali of <i>Iraq the Model</i> being paid agents of the United States came originally from a foolish and thuggish blog aptly named <i>Martini Republic.</i>  But the charge was far more sinister than most folks seem to realize.</p>
<p>The main blogger on this charge at <i>Martini Republic,</i> Joseph Mailander, simply cannot be so dense as not to realize what it might mean to Sunni Iraqis living in Baghdad if their neighbors started to think they were paid agents of the CIA, or even the &#8220;490th Army Civil Reserve Unit,&#8221; as Mailander specifically claimed.</p>
<p>Simply put, I suspect Mr. Mailander, and perhaps the entire team over at <i>Martini Republic</i> &#8212; not to mention &#8220;Professor&#8221; Juan Cole of <i>Informed [sic] Comment</i>, who hyped the charges and added to them &#8212; were hoping that one or more of the brothers would be murdered, or that the blogsite would be bombed off the internet.  The liberal bloggers display in other posts the complete disregard for Iraqi life that is typical of liberals across America; why would they feel anything but giddy glee if three problematical &#8220;neocon&#8221; Iraqi bloggers were slain?</p>
<p>In my opinion, we&#8217;ve all dipped a toe into the true, vicious, dark side of the Left, which has historically seen violence, riot, and murder as legitimate tools to advance its lamentable cause.  In this case, the bloody reach of Mailander and Cole far exceeds their rather pathetic grasp, and nobody in Iraq appears to be buying what <i>Martini Republic</i> and <i>Informed Comment</i> are selling.</p>
<p>But someday, perhaps, they will concoct a charge in a believable enough way that they will get some &#8220;enemy&#8221; of theirs butchered.  And they will wave the bloody scalp and dance about in joyous abandon.  Considering what fire they play with, it&#8217;s virtually inevitable.</p>
<p>Dafydd</p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2004/12/29/ila-timesi-runs-story-on-omar-and-mohammed/#comment-7234</link>
		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'Par for the course.'

I thought contrasting the unspecified attacks against the specific retort camee out rather well for the bloggers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Par for the course.&#8217;</p>
<p>I thought contrasting the unspecified attacks against the specific retort camee out rather well for the bloggers.</p>
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