Pig in a Poke: The Upcoming Initiative to Amend the Three Strikes Law
In November, Californians may be voting on an initiative billing itself as the Three Strikes and Child Protection Act of 2004. A better name for the initiative would be the “Eviscerating Three Strikes and Putting Children at Risk from Sexually Violent Predators Act of 2004.”
According to a recent story in L.A. Weekly, almost all the required signatures have been collected, and polls (commissioned by organizations supporting the initiative) show strong support for the initiative. (Of course, you can give a poll that commands a sizable majority supporting the banning of water — it’s all in how you word the question.)
Support for the initiative probably stems from the public’s misunderstanding of the law. Many think that any three crimes will automatically get you a 25-to-life sentence. Not so. First, you must be convicted of two “strikes” — serious or violent felonies like rape, robbery, murder, carjacking, residential burglary, and arson. A list of strikes can be found here. Then, you must commit a third felony. With the passage of Proposition 36, you can’t get 25-to-life for drug possession any more, unless you have a “strike” prior and have been to prison within the last five years. And prosecutors and judges are not bound by the law, but have discretion to ignore strike priors to impose a more lenient sentence.
The initiative is a pig in a poke. It’s being sold as a combination “child protection” bill and a reasonable amendment of Three Strikes. It is neither. It is a wish list for defense attorneys. Even if you are sympathetic to the stated goal of the initiative — requiring that the third strike be a serious or violent felony — you need to be aware that the initiative does a hell of a lot more than that.
And calling it a “child protection” act is one of the most brazen lies I have ever seen. This initiative will result in the release of violent criminals who will victimize children. Make no mistake: innocent children will be harmed — not helped — by the passage of this initiative.
Here are the principal problems with the proposed initiative:
- Multiple separate violent crimes count as only one strike if tried in a single trial.
Under this rule, serial murderers and rapists would get only one strike conviction for their multiple violent crimes. For example, Richard Ramirez (the “Night Stalker”) would get only one strike for his 13 separate murder convictions. Charles Manson would have only one strike for his seven murder convictions in the Tate-LaBianca murder case. And from what I can tell, it appears that Richard Allen Davis, the guy who murdered Polly Klaas, never would have faced a third-strike sentence.
- The law redefines several offenses as non-strikes.
For example, criminal death threats and most residential burglaries will not count as strike priors. You can now drive drunk (or lead police on a high-speed chase, or both) and put somebody in a wheelchair — and that’s not a strike if you didn’t specifically intend to do so. Setting a massive brush or forest fire — or two, or four — will no longer be considered a serious crime unless someone is hurt or a building burns down. And the list goes on.
- The strike law will now apply only to third strikes that are “serious or violent.”
This may sound attractive to some, but it is far too extreme a solution — especially in light of the redefinition of so many crimes as non-strikes. For example, Charlie Manson could be paroled and break into your house or threaten to kill you — and he wouldn’t face 25-to-life, despite his numerous previous murder convictions. Is this really what we want?
- Probably the scariest thing about the initiative is that it opens the floodgates for hundreds of violent prisoners to be released.
The law provides that any criminal previously sentenced under the Three Strikes Law has the right to be resentenced according to the terms of the law as amended. In conjunction with the various provisions already discussed — including those redefining many offenses as non-strikes, and turning multiple violent crimes into a single strike prior — this is a dangerous provision indeed.
Just because someone was convicted of an offense that was not serious or violent does not mean that they are not dangerous. Some of the people who could be released are described in this post. They include people like Joseph Noble, a repeat pedophile who has molested multiple young girls between the ages of 5 and 7. He still has violent sexual fantasies about raping and murdering young girls, and said at his trial for indecent exposure that, “on a magnitude of evil, (masturbating) is nothing compared to what I’m capable of.”
The law also redefines and slightly increases the penalty for certain sexual offenses committed on children. This is a Trojan horse, designed simply to make the law attractive to those who want to punish child molesters.
How is releasing Joseph Noble going to protect children??
I am afraid that this initiative is likely to pass unless an aggressive campaign is mounted to tell the voters the truth. We can’t rely on the mainstream media to get the message out. I think it will be up to alternative outlets like talk radio and the internet. If talk radio hosts hammer this issue home, the way they did with the recall — and if they highlight the problems I mention above, there may be a chance to prevent the initiative from passing.
But it is going to take aggressive action. Read the text of the law. Reach your own conclusions. And if you agree with me, talk to your friends. Write on your blog about it. And write or call your local talk radio hosts, and get them up in arms about this. The safety of Californians is at stake.

Effort to Gut California Three Strikes Law.
“The initiative is a pig in a poke. It’s being sold as a combination “child protection” bill and a…
Trackback by PrestoPundit -- Defining Liberalism for the 21st Century. — 4/4/2004 @ 10:06 pm
> Charlie Manson could be paroled and break into your house or threaten to kill you — and he wouldn’t face 25-to-life, despite his numerous previous murder convictions. Is this really what we want?
Let me get this straight.. You want someone to face 25 years to life for either breaking into your house or “threatening” you? I don’t care what their past history is - that is far too harsh a sentence. In answer to your question, YES.
Comment by brett — 4/6/2004 @ 2:19 pm
The law doesn’t put somebody in prison for 25 years to life for breaking into your house and threatening you. (No sneer quotes needed.) It puts them in prison for 25 years to life for proving that they’re incapable of being reformed, a permanent threat to all around them. The breaking in and threatening is just the proof.
Though I will grant that getting shot in the act would be better; A pity California is too uncivilized to encourage that sort of thing.
Comment by Brett Bellmore — 4/6/2004 @ 2:58 pm
Quibble: Manson would have at least two strikes — the Tate and LaBianca murders took place in LA City and LA County respectively, and thus were tried separately.
Manson also had a significant criminal history prior to the murders. I don’t know if he had any convictions that would qualify as a strike (and even if he did, many of them were from outside of California), but it’s certainly possible.
Comment by Sean O'Hara — 4/6/2004 @ 3:13 pm
Your quibble is factually wrong.
1) Charles Manson was convicted of the Tate and LaBianca murders in one very famous trial. Deputy D.A. Bugliosi ended his summation with “a roll call of the dead”:
Read more about it here (among many other places).
2) Felonies committed in the City of Los Angeles are tried by the Los Angeles County D.A., as are felonies committed in the County but outside the City. Whether the murders happened inside the city limits or not would have no effect on the number of trials conducted.
In any event, Manson was tried for the Tate murders and LaBianca murders in one trial.
Manson’s previous history included burglaries, thefts, and one arson (the details of which I am unaware). He would have two strikes anyway, because he was convicted of the murders of Shorty Shea and Donald Hinman in a trial separate from the Tate/LaBianca trial.
My point was that he would get only one strike for the Tate/LaBianca trial — a result which is outrageous.
Comment by Patterico — 4/6/2004 @ 4:02 pm
In that case, you are ethically obligated to remove his comment post haste. Or does that rule only apply to newspapers? I’m confused.
Comment by Xrlq — 4/6/2004 @ 6:39 pm
Nice try — but:
1) Did I select his comment for publication?
2) Does anyone run the risk of being confused about the truth?
It would be different if this were a liberal site, and Sean O’Hara sent me that erroneous observation in an e-mail, and I printed it — especially if I knew (or should know) it’s false, but printed it with the intent of misleading people about the law.
This is inside baseball (not blogball) anyway.
Comment by Patterico — 4/6/2004 @ 11:23 pm
Has anyone looked at the march 2001 ruling by the CA appeals court in Los Angeles? Attorney John Robert case was published because of the defination was left to be determined by each judge on what constituted a third strike. The “pizza defense” used as one example, and a second case of non-violent offenders getting struck out for traffic tickets. This case was used to set Guidelines. Something that was not set before. It required the third stike to be a violent offence. Not stealing a piece of pizza.
Comment by williams — 5/18/2004 @ 5:18 am
as a true republican not one of the facsists who have infiltrated the party i will delite in seeing the 3 strikes law be forever abolished it has only served those who want to gain either politically (Grey Davis)career or monetarily (THOSE WHO BUILD PRISONS AND ALSO THE PRISON GUARDS UNION) No one in their right mind wants people locked up for pizza, golf clubs, or videotapes this will be on the minds of all the voters and anyway besides those who gain directly from the 3 strikes laws its only supported by a small number of people those who are still reeling from deaths caused by violance (which excuses them from criticism) and the most extreme fanatics who are ignorant and believe in the 3 strikes laws as well as a number of other vile insane measures.So as I pull the straight GOP ticket I will also vote to rid us of this 3 strikes insanity.
Comment by papillion — 6/11/2004 @ 11:50 pm
Can you tell me when is this initiative coming up?
Thanks, Frank Principato
Comment by Frank Principato — 6/15/2004 @ 11:35 am