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	<title>Comments on: Three Strikes Quiz: Question Three</title>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.patterico.com/2004/04/01/three-strikes-quiz-question-three/#comment-1376</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that here you've got a much better explanation of the problem with the proposed amendment to three strikes than the other two posts: the original criminal who inspired three strikes wouldn't even be covered by the amended law.

That doesn't do much for my opinion of three strikes, but it does bring into question the intent or judgment of those who seek to amend the law.  This suggests that they are trying to undo three strikes in spirit if not absolutely.

That said, one question (or set of questions) comes to mind:  what is the purpose of three strikes?

If the purpose is to lock up criminals who have engaged in crime sprees, then the question of whether charges are "brought and tries separately" is irrelevant.  After all, the manner in which the criminal was prosecuted is just a technicality.

However, if the intent is to lock up habitual offenders, then the question is important, because a habitual offender is far more likely to have had charges "brought and tried separately."

If, on the other hand, the intent is just to cover for weak sentencing laws on serious crimes, then we need to fix the original laws, not rely on three strikes for that.

Instead of three strikes, I'd like to see the law amended to allow for far harsher penalties for progressively worse criminals.  Unfortunately, the law doesn't provide a mechanism for that - or at least not one that accomplishes the job - so, for now, three strikes is the best we've got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that here you&#8217;ve got a much better explanation of the problem with the proposed amendment to three strikes than the other two posts: the original criminal who inspired three strikes wouldn&#8217;t even be covered by the amended law.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t do much for my opinion of three strikes, but it does bring into question the intent or judgment of those who seek to amend the law.  This suggests that they are trying to undo three strikes in spirit if not absolutely.</p>
<p>That said, one question (or set of questions) comes to mind:  what is the purpose of three strikes?</p>
<p>If the purpose is to lock up criminals who have engaged in crime sprees, then the question of whether charges are &#8220;brought and tries separately&#8221; is irrelevant.  After all, the manner in which the criminal was prosecuted is just a technicality.</p>
<p>However, if the intent is to lock up habitual offenders, then the question is important, because a habitual offender is far more likely to have had charges &#8220;brought and tried separately.&#8221;</p>
<p>If, on the other hand, the intent is just to cover for weak sentencing laws on serious crimes, then we need to fix the original laws, not rely on three strikes for that.</p>
<p>Instead of three strikes, I&#8217;d like to see the law amended to allow for far harsher penalties for progressively worse criminals.  Unfortunately, the law doesn&#8217;t provide a mechanism for that - or at least not one that accomplishes the job - so, for now, three strikes is the best we&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Patterico</title>
		<link>http://www.patterico.com/2004/04/01/three-strikes-quiz-question-three/#comment-1377</link>
		<dc:creator>Patterico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The basic purpose of the law is twofold: 1) to protect society by keeping violent criminals off the streets; and 2) to give a single life term to people who repeatedly commit serious &lt;i&gt;and/or&lt;/i&gt; violent crimes and repeatedly go to prison for them.

The latter category may not be strictly "violent" people.  It includes people who are doing "life on the installment plan" -- they spend most of their life in prison, but a few years at a time.  For example, a career burglar who breaks into people's homes, and never manages to go a single calendar year out of custody without a new crime or a new violation of probation or parole. 

At a minimum, as to the former category, it clearly should not matter whether the person's violent crimes are prosecuted in a single trial or multiple trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The basic purpose of the law is twofold: 1) to protect society by keeping violent criminals off the streets; and 2) to give a single life term to people who repeatedly commit serious <i>and/or</i> violent crimes and repeatedly go to prison for them.</p>
<p>The latter category may not be strictly &#8220;violent&#8221; people.  It includes people who are doing &#8220;life on the installment plan&#8221; &#8212; they spend most of their life in prison, but a few years at a time.  For example, a career burglar who breaks into people&#8217;s homes, and never manages to go a single calendar year out of custody without a new crime or a new violation of probation or parole. </p>
<p>At a minimum, as to the former category, it clearly should not matter whether the person&#8217;s violent crimes are prosecuted in a single trial or multiple trials.</p>
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		<title>By: damnum absque injuria</title>
		<link>http://www.patterico.com/2004/04/01/three-strikes-quiz-question-three/#comment-1378</link>
		<dc:creator>damnum absque injuria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Three Strikes "Reform"&lt;/strong&gt;
Anyone considering voting for the initiative to water down three strikes should take Patterico's quiz. Questions 1 and 2 are up now. More will follow. UP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Three Strikes &#8220;Reform&#8221;</strong><br />
Anyone considering voting for the initiative to water down three strikes should take Patterico&#8217;s quiz. Questions 1 and 2 are up now. More will follow. UP</p>
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		<title>By: BoiFromTroy</title>
		<link>http://www.patterico.com/2004/04/01/three-strikes-quiz-question-three/#comment-1379</link>
		<dc:creator>BoiFromTroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;L.A. D.A. Cooley speaks out&lt;/strong&gt;
At the Los Angeles Chamber, District Attorney Steve Cooley spoke out on a number of issues this morning, including a proposed initiative to reform California's "Three Strikes" law. The Republican highlighted three important initiatives his office is ta...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>L.A. D.A. Cooley speaks out</strong><br />
At the Los Angeles Chamber, District Attorney Steve Cooley spoke out on a number of issues this morning, including a proposed initiative to reform California&#8217;s &#8220;Three Strikes&#8221; law. The Republican highlighted three important initiatives his office is ta&#8230;</p>
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